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Old 12-10-2018, 07:16 PM
Baile Baile is offline
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Maybe you're very young. Basically, each one of us lives in our own reality, created by our beliefs and emotions.
No, not young. And maybe you're new age. Because there is in fact and at the very least a collective consciousness aspect to human reality. So there's much more that question than just everyone creating their own reality. But that's a whole other conversation.

You're didn't respond to what I wrote. I wasn't talking about new age ideas about creating our own reality. I was talking about truth versus lies. And being able to easily see when people are lying. I'm not new age but I am OLD school. I deal with questions practically and logically. And I was specifically addressing your "fake news" comment. I said, and repeat, that anyone with even the slightest bit of conscious awareness can easily spot liars and con artists. I can certainly tell when someone is passing off lies as the truth, or manipulating facts in a deceptive and untruthful way. You haven't been following politics the past two years I guess, it's particularly easy to tell these days.
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Armadodecadron Armadodecadron is offline
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We should be less vehement in promoting our beliefs, and less dismissive of opposing opinions, because we actually don't know, and saying after the fact things like "who would've thought", "I didn't imagine", "I didn't expect that", are explanations, not justifications. Those who have supported and promoted erroneous causes should be held accountable (proportionally) both by themselves, and by the others.

Only owning up your mistakes you can truly progress.
Quite a pickle, that. Walk lightly and no one will know you are there. Trod heavily and you'll crush precious things underfoot. If I were asked to present proof of a fundamental flaw in the human spirit, it would be this: in conviction, ignorance, and in uncertainty, inaction.
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Old Yesterday, 08:42 PM
inavalan inavalan is offline
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No, not young. And maybe you're new age. Because there is in fact and at the very least a collective consciousness aspect to human reality. So there's much more that question than just everyone creating their own reality. But that's a whole other conversation.

You're didn't respond to what I wrote. I wasn't talking about new age ideas about creating our own reality. I was talking about truth versus lies. And being able to easily see when people are lying. I'm not new age but I am OLD school. I deal with questions practically and logically. And I was specifically addressing your "fake news" comment. I said, and repeat, that anyone with even the slightest bit of conscious awareness can easily spot liars and con artists. I can certainly tell when someone is passing off lies as the truth, or manipulating facts in a deceptive and untruthful way. You haven't been following politics the past two years I guess, it's particularly easy to tell these days.

Not politicizing the discussion ... just a quick test: in the recent US Supreme Court nomination, did the lady who accused the judge of inappropriate sexual behavior 35 years ago, lie or not? How could you tell? Most likely, function of your past experience, or biased by your political inclination, you believed her not.
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Old Yesterday, 08:57 PM
inavalan inavalan is offline
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Quite a pickle, that. Walk lightly and no one will know you are there. Trod heavily and you'll crush precious things underfoot. If I were asked to present proof of a fundamental flaw in the human spirit, it would be this: in conviction, ignorance, and in uncertainty, inaction.

I don't think it is a matter of flaws in the human spirit. It is a matter of individual level of evolvement of one's soul (human spirit, or whatever you want to call that spark of consciousness that materializes and animates a human).

You can't blame a child for being ignorant, or for acting mostly instinctually. You can't blame a youth for having emotions override his/her intellect. The same applies to the human spirit. Each one the four "i" you mentioned could be a virtue, compared to their antonyms applied wrongly.
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