"You'll hate me for saying this but until you put in some effort you won't go very far."
What exactly is your definition of effort?
I don´t really understand what you´re trying to tell me..
I am patient and i am doing personal research at the moment. And this site is a place where i am trying to find answers from people such as yourself. But maybe someone with more definite answers, you seem to speak in riddles.
"I've been where
you are and now I'm not. That didn't happen by accident or by my questioning some all-knowing sage. There ain't many in this world so there's no quick-fix learning"
Yes, i know that there is no quick fix learning. What am i supposed to do to appeal to your expectations to what a newbie like myself is supposed to do? Talk to the air and wait patiently for personal ideas conjured from imagination until Cognitive dissonance occurs and then finally develop a one final unified theory of bull**** and turn into a completely self deceptive, considered clinically insane individual?
I´d rather not. I´d rather do my research and keep asking people who are above my knowledge level in this matter.
"one needs to make the effort and if my experience is any guide, the answers will come in pieces, bits here, bits there."
Again, please sir. Tell me how you define "effort".
And about the bits here and there. Yes, i know. I am not as dull as you might think, i am trying to find bits here and there.
"Just one section you haven't respond to:
"and the only way of coming closer to the truth is believing people who claim to have some sort of answers. I beg to differ. As long as you accept you could only ever begin to get closer - become less distant? - then I'd suggest there are things which can be considered.... Only you would know if you're prepared to learn from others who almost certainly do have a better knowledge level. Seems to me that the last sentence was highly relevant to your outlook."
No. I just decided not to respond to that statement because i wasnt able to comprehend the meaning of it. But i´ll try..
"I beg to differ. As long as you accept you could only ever begin to get closer - become less distant?
- then I'd suggest there are things which can be considered.... Only you would know if you're prepared to learn from others who almost certainly do have a better knowledge level."
Guess number 1.
Accept what exactly? That there are things unexplainable by science? If so. Then, yes. I accept that because i am positive that existence is not limited by human knowledge.
Now since i have proposed my first and only guess on what your meaning behind "acceptance" is, and verified and explained why i accept. Then i should be "beginning to get closer" according the applied logic you claim to be required in order to "get closer", by closer im guessing you mean closer to the "truth".
And the last clause of of the sentence (- become less distant?) was pretty difficult for me to make sense of in relation to this guess. I´d say that you were proposing another form of the meaning of "getting closer". If that was actually the case then i don´t get the purpose of it..
"then I'd suggest there are things which can be considered"
I´m assuming that you´re finishing your point by confirming that if i had the acceptance in me, then these so called "things that could be considered" which im guessing is the help i seek here, could be offered to me.
"Only you would know if you're prepared to learn from others who almost certainly do have a better knowledge level."
Correct.
Guess number 2.
And if my guess on what your first statement implied was incorrect, which could easily be because the sentence seems paradoxical to my mind.. Then this would be my second guess to your meaning. The guess involves a guess within a guess. The first guess is that the words involve a hidden message, or a riddle. Second guess is the guess on what that riddle means.
If this is a riddle then i would perceive the hidden message as such : You are telling me that if i only accept to get closer instead of "less distant" i will not be capable of pursuing answers due to lack of patience.
-Premise behind the drawn conclusion to what the riddle means.
I don´t know if this is in fact a riddle and if it was i´m not sure how to prove the definite meaning of it using logic. So i will try to use my instincts.
Eager and impatience imply the first part of the sentence, assuming that only accepting getting closer is the impatient way.
And patience would imply the second part "less distant", assuming that "less distant" means finding inner calmness and accepting that the quest for a higher truth takes time and patience.
And if this is a riddle and that my conclusion to the meaning of it was invalid then i have failed in seeing the logical structure of the riddle.
And the reason to why i previously stated that this seemed paradoxical to me can be explained in two ways. Number 1. I am unsure of the actual meaning of the sentence because it gives 2 options. Number 2. If you are going towards something at a measurable speed then you are both getting closer and less distant to the location you are heading at. So, this is a pretty illogical riddle and especially because of the fact that you put a question mark in the end of the sentence which causes even more confusion.. Does it mean that you are not giving a wise, riddly advice, but just proposing an alternate option which in sense means exactly the same as the key components required for an average person to acknowledge this as a riddle, who could be figured out through finding the logical structure of it? It´s hard to fully verify to myself what exactly you mean..
"then I'd suggest there are things which can be considered...."
Yea, yea.. If i take the long way interpreted by me as "becoming less distant instead of going closer" Then you can help me.
"Only you would know if you're prepared to learn from others who almost certainly do have a better knowledge level."
Right..
So my final most reasonable conclusion to the meaning of that statement that i didnt answer the first time would be :
"I must be more patient and then i will be ready for help. The answers don´t come right away.. Only i will know when i am prepared or "patient" enough to get the answers.."
My answer to the guessed meaning :
I´m patient but eager.
I know that i am prepared since i am here and there, seeking answers.