Non-duality doesn't exist.

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH

Non-duality is feeling/living /acting non-dual while still living in apparently dual world / multiple spheres of world . And that is the reason it is very difficult . But it really exists for person with high integrity , SQ , EQ & IQ . The person believing in and practicing in nun-duality will still work logically and observe the limits & laws of duality while roaming around the world . He will not make non-sense illogical statements / actions which may arise if one may not have understood non-duality and spirituality.

In laymen language non-duality is to have in integrated personality which too is very rare .

The fact that it is rare, is what makes it so good.
Is what makes it so inspiring.
So rewarding and so rich.
So valuable and so full.
So free and so available.
So evasive and so arriving.
So flowing and so allowing.
So satisfying and so accomplishing.
So profound so majestic.
So astonishing so rewarding.
So bountiful and so merciful.
So unconditionally loving and so all caring.
So wakeful and so aware.
So giving and so forgiving.
It is only one and it is all.
As all is one and one is all.
It is the one who we all are.
As we are all one. And none other than one.
And none like no-one.
Only one as all.
And all as one.

[Ewwerrin]

Originally Posted by Jyotir

Ha ha, so with the permission provided by that reasoning:

Duality doesn't exist, because the polar opposite of duality is non-duality (Oneness). And together they are Oneness.

You can only have the whole coin!


Just having some philosophical fun.

~ J

Yeah so to simply always hold on to the one whole coin.
And I am never without my precious!
I can acknowledge the wholeness of my being.
Who I am, what I love, what feels good to me.
What is my natural state of being who I really am becoming.
Evermore here and now.

[neil]

Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH

Non-duality is feeling/living /acting non-dual while still living in apparently dual world / multiple spheres of world . And that is the reason it is very difficult . But it really exists for person with high integrity , SQ , EQ & IQ . The person believing in and practicing in nun-duality will still work logically and observe the limits & laws of duality while roaming around the world . He will not make non-sense illogical statements / actions which may arise if one may not have understood non-duality and spirituality.

In laymen language non-duality is to have in integrated personality which too is very rare .

For persons of high integrity, you say !

"Multiple" spheres, is not "dual". multiple spheres are simply individual spheres of more than one.

Also there is only one single universe, & it is spiritual. All physical matter exists in the spiritual universe & is created from the matter of the spiritual universe. Ask any highly evolved spiritual being of integrity, (not a spiritual being masquerading as a highly evolved spiritual being & they will inform you as such.

Refering to spiritual duality, really only refers to the self, ie:- the spiritual Soul'self. & there is only the singular self. Of which is a seperate sentient entity to the living Christ entity.

The singular Soul'self is connected to the Earthly flesh body, of which is a non sentient, non aware & non intelligent sensory/processing unit that is a nessesity for the spiritual Soul'self to live life on this planet. So it, the flesh being a non sentient, non aware & non intelligent sensory/processing unit, means that we the Soul'self are non dual entities.

We were however existing in duality "once", & this was before our spiritual parents "Mother & Father, living connected to flesh, concieved us into existence as living entities in effect giving us identity & existence as "living Souls" & not just as "existing blank Souls" without identity.

Prior to them conceiving us into existence, we were existing in a dual state, connected to our eternal Soul mate "ying/yang". This dual state of being, connected to our eternal Soul mate, is refered to as a blank whole Soul of dual equal Male &Female components, & is destined to be split in two, as one of the two equal components is conceived into living, as a sentient entity connected to the non sentient, non aware & non intelligent fleshly Earth bound sensory/processing unit ie:-the physical body. The Earthly physical body is not an integral part of our being.

The Earthly body is not sentient, however we the spiritual Soul'self is. & that makes us non dual individual entities, that are living individually within the Spiritual universe, of which is of, the Heavenly Father Christ entity. And we are seperate & distinct to the Heavenly Father Christ entity. The mind of the Heavenly Christ entity is individual & unto itself & seperate to the mind of ourselves. Meaning we are non dual entities existing unto ourselves within the one singular spiritual universe.

Ask any highly evolved spiritual being of integrity, who is not masquerading as such & they will inform that this is the case. However be assured that the highly evolved being is actually highly evolved.

As per usual the above is for anyones considerations.

People try to hold on to there beliefs so desperately despite the fact that they didn't even come up with the very concept that they can't fathom living without .

[neil]

Originally Posted by MAYA EL

People try to hold on to there beliefs so desperately despite the fact that they didn't even come up with the very concept that they can't fathom living without .

MAYA EL....
Hold onto their belief & not "Fathom living without their belief.

Why would a person want to "fathom" living without their belief.

What is wrong with living in accord with their belief. Especially if their belief is being proven to be more than a concept, moment by moment day in, day out for many many many years.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Ewwerrin

The fact that it is rare, is what makes it so good.
Is what makes it so inspiring.
So rewarding and so rich.
So valuable and so full.
So free and so available.
So evasive and so arriving.
So flowing and so allowing.
So satisfying and so accomplishing.
So profound so majestic.
So astonishing so rewarding.
So bountiful and so merciful.
So unconditionally loving and so all caring.
So wakeful and so aware.
So giving and so forgiving.
It is only one and it is all.
As all is one and one is all.
It is the one who we all are.
As we are all one. And none other than one.
And none like no-one.
Only one as all.
And all as one.

Hi-Ho Ewwerrin -

Methinks maybe this (what your words communicate) is what is referenced as 'rapture' and/or 'the Rapture'. (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rapture)

"The rapture is an eschatological concept of certain Christians, particularly within branches of American evangelicalism, consisting of an end-time event when all Christian believers who are alive, along with resurrected believers, will rise "in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air." (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture )

Re what "in the clouds" metaphorically means (from my treatise): “As the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. … they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” (Matthew 24:27‑30), does not mean that he [Jesus] will then literally flash across the sky and be seen everywhere as he ‘gloriously’ orbits the planet in person. People who are emotionally invested in worshiping Jesus himself as a super-magical genie kind of God will undoubtedly regard the explanation that follows as being unacceptably heretical, but assuming you are not one such – why would you still be engaged in exploring this thesis otherwise? – let me submit that the above-quoted statement only makes real sense if one interprets it metaphorically, with “heaven” being understood as referencing the realm of consciousness and (so) “the clouds” as referencing the particularities of ideological constellations, or philosophies, within it. “The Son of man” alludes to the corpus of human apprehension, or ‘knowing’ (often spoken of as Cosmic Consciousness) pertaining to Life as a Whole ...

Originally Posted by neil

MAYA EL....
Hold onto their belief & not "Fathom living without their belief.

Why would a person want to "fathom" living without their belief.

What is wrong with living in accord with their belief. Especially if their belief is being proven to be more than a concept, moment by moment day in, day out for many many many years.

You would have to actually live without any beliefs in order to understand why beliefs are so detrimental to humanity.
Yes you can believe that a certain "thing" is going to happen in the future and it can even come true
And depending on the beliefs you may believe and be right dozens and dozens of times so I'm not denying the possibility that a person can believe in something being a certain way in the future and thay person being right.

[HITESH SHAH]

Originally Posted by neil

For persons of high integrity, you say !

"Multiple" spheres, is not "dual". multiple spheres are simply individual spheres of more than one.

Duality is the feeling separate and different from super soul / cosmic spirit.
Multi-layer/multi-sphere nature of world make non-duality further complex and difficult . The inherent multiplicity in this multi-sphere world makes 24X7 365/6 days all the places non-duality extremely difficult .
But all these complexity can be traced to a duality feeling of the individual.
Only if the person understands the inherent complexity of the world and he can feel non-dual in all such situations all the time all the places , he/she can be said to be truly non-dual.

Originally Posted by neil

Also there is only one single universe, & it is spiritual. All physical matter exists in the spiritual universe & is created from the matter of the spiritual universe. Ask any highly evolved spiritual being of integrity, (not a spiritual being masquerading as a highly evolved spiritual being & they will inform you as such.

Refering to spiritual duality, really only refers to the self, ie:- the spiritual Soul'self. & there is only the singular self. Of which is a seperate sentient entity to the living Christ entity.

The singular Soul'self is connected to the Earthly flesh body, of which is a non sentient, non aware & non intelligent sensory/processing unit that is a nessesity for the spiritual Soul'self to live life on this planet. So it, the flesh being a non sentient, non aware & non intelligent sensory/processing unit, means that we the Soul'self are non dual entities.

We were however existing in duality "once", & this was before our spiritual parents "Mother & Father, living connected to flesh, concieved us into existence as living entities in effect giving us identity & existence as "living Souls" & not just as "existing blank Souls" without identity.

Prior to them conceiving us into existence, we were existing in a dual state, connected to our eternal Soul mate "ying/yang". This dual state of being, connected to our eternal Soul mate, is refered to as a blank whole Soul of dual equal Male &Female components, & is destined to be split in two, as one of the two equal components is conceived into living, as a sentient entity connected to the non sentient, non aware & non intelligent fleshly Earth bound sensory/processing unit ie:-the physical body. The Earthly physical body is not an integral part of our being.

The Earthly body is not sentient, however we the spiritual Soul'self is. & that makes us non dual individual entities, that are living individually within the Spiritual universe, of which is of, the Heavenly Father Christ entity. And we are seperate & distinct to the Heavenly Father Christ entity. The mind of the Heavenly Christ entity is individual & unto itself & seperate to the mind of ourselves. Meaning we are non dual entities existing unto ourselves within the one singular spiritual universe.

Ask any highly evolved spiritual being of integrity, who is not masquerading as such & they will inform that this is the case. However be assured that the highly evolved being is actually highly evolved.

As per usual the above is for anyones considerations.

Agreed .This is what one must learn in the basics of spirituality and I have been taught and demonstrated also the same way. The yin/yang is basically 'Purush'/ 'Prakriti' Vedic literature , Ardha nari nateshwar. In plain spiritual lingo 'Purush' (or Yang / male) represents the spirit and 'Prakriti' (Yin - female ) represents the matter. Spirit (soul-self) is eternal and everywhere . Matter ( non sentient, non aware & non intelligent fleshly Earth bound sensory/processing unit ) is fleeting and can change form.

Despite all these apparent non-duality , veil of ignorance , arrogance , pretence , material selfishness separates the soul self from cosmic /super soul. To pierce this veil is very much difficult and hence the non-duality is extremely difficult.

[HITESH SHAH]

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[neil]

Originally Posted by HITESH SHAH

Duality is the feeling separate and different from super soul / cosmic spirit.
Multi-layer/multi-sphere nature of world make non-duality further complex and difficult . The inherent multiplicity in this multi-sphere world makes 24X7 365/6 days all the places non-duality extremely difficult .
But all these complexity can be traced to a duality feeling of the individual.
Only if the person understands the inherent complexity of the world and he can feel non-dual in all such situations all the time all the places , he/she can be said to be truly non-dual.



Agreed .This is what one must learn in the basics of spirituality and I have been taught and demonstrated also the same way. The yin/yang is basically 'Purush'/ 'Prakriti' Vedic literature , Ardha nari nateshwar. In plain spiritual lingo 'Purush' (or Yang / male) represents the spirit and 'Prakriti' (Yin - female ) represents the matter. Spirit (soul-self) is eternal and everywhere . Matter ( non sentient, non aware & non intelligent fleshly Earth bound sensory/processing unit ) is fleeting and can change form.

Despite all these apparent non-duality , veil of ignorance , arrogance , pretence , material selfishness separates the soul self from cosmic /super soul. To pierce this veil is very much difficult and hence the non-duality is extremely difficult.

FYI
We are born seperate & different to the creator Christ entity. However we can become personally known to the creator Christ entity. Through recieving the very essence of the Christ entity.

FYI
This world is not a Multi-layer/multi-sphere kind of world. however there are spheres within the Heavenly locations. However the Heavens are not a location of duality & neither is this world.
And i understand this world perfectly.

FYI
There is zero, apparent non-duality, veil of ignorance , arrogance , pretence , material selfishness (that you yourself seems to believe in) that separates the soul (ourselves) from cosmic /super soul. Because this world & our living existence are non dual in nature.
I do not need to pierce a veil, spiritual or non spiritual, as i do not exist behind or within a veil of any description.

FYI
As i previously mentioned Ying/Yang is a state of dualism, however after being seperated from the dualistic blank whole soul state of existence, "Ying/Yang", we are not dual from that moment on.