Women As Priests

[Explorer21]

The idea that women cannot be priests, because God said so, was created, NOT by God, but by men who thought women were inferior to men. Male-dominant Judaism was largely responsible for this attitude inherited by Christianity and voiced by such teachers as Paul of Tarsus who said that women should keep quiet in church and obey their husbands in everything. And Christians call his opinions "THE WORD OF GOD."
The only people in Christianity who are allowed to be priests are those who have a penis, and then they are not allowed to use it.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Explorer21

The idea that women cannot be priests, because God said so, was created, NOT by God, but by men who thought women were inferior to men. Male-dominant Judaism was largely responsible for this attitude inherited by Christianity and voiced by such teachers as Paul of Tarsus who said that women should keep quiet in church and obey their husbands in everything. And Christians call his opinions "THE WORD OF GOD."
The only people in Christianity who are allowed to be priests are those who have a penis, and then they are not allowed to use it.

Prest- Vulgar Latin - ' One put over others '.... says it all.
' And they are not allowed to use it '.... Pity that some don't adhear to this rule

There are Women Priests now in some denominations.

[Shaunc]

This may be mostly true for Christian religions but some Japanese forms of buddhism have women priests, also their priests are not obligated to take a vow of chastity.

[Busby]

Let us not forget the man who, in the scriptures, set a good example by having twelve male disciples. Can't argue with that can you...

[Explorer21]

Originally Posted by sky123

Prest- Vulgar Latin - ' One put over others '.... says it all.
' And they are not allowed to use it '.... Pity that some don't adhear to this rule

There are Women Priests now in some denominations.

Sky123, it's good to hear that women are priests in some places.

[Explorer21]

Originally Posted by Shaunc

This may be mostly true for Christian religions but some Japanese forms of buddhism have women priests, also their priests are not obligated to take a vow of chastity.

Thanks for the information about Japanese buddhism. Being a nation governed by the sign Scorpio, Japanese people are generally open-minded in regards to sexuality, which may explain the lack of obligation re chastity vows.

[Ab Origine]

Hi Folks..

Well, if we listened to Christ, then there would not be ANY priests at all - no religion at all - as that is what He ACTUALLY advocated and taught a personal communion direct with the Divine where NO such priest intermediary or religious institution is ever needed at all - and in fact He said repeatedly that such leaders and following such erroneous teaching s would only serve to lead us astray and hnder our true development..

And indeed Folks, He DID have female "followers" that He taught EQUALLY in every respect of His spiritual truth...Mary Magdelene prime example - the other disciples report that Christ showed her great favour - loved her in a human manner also, kissed her "on the mouth often" and she would indeed become a central figure after His murder, and it is she who organises the disciples and remind them of their duty at this time as they are all fearful and wondering how to carry o without Him, so she steps forward to take control and is very much a leading driving force... The other disciples, except Peter who seems to be the only one to take issue with her femininity, all the rest seem to accept her without any problems at all...

As I say, in the ORIGINAL gospels these disciples actually wrote themselves, we get a VERY DFFERENT view of Yeshua the Christ and His teaching.. As said, He has us turn AWAY from the organised religion, have no part of it at all - and certainly He NEVER came to start any new religion in His name..lol... All this religious malarkey is forced upon us by MAN, not by my Father... Have no part of any of it Christ said, it will inevitably lead you astray..

So we see, an issue of female priests is a rather moot point here - as in truth - there is no need for ANY priesthood at all or ANY religion at all, He said so directly, repeatedly - DAMN THOSE PHARISEES yes..?? and of course for this truth they MURDERED Him to stop His threat to their authority...We should NEVER forget that basic essential truth Folks - they MURDERED Him to silence Him - the religion is an ENEMY to Christ and my Father and has ALWAYS been so.. He warned us repeatedly didn't He..??..

[sky]

However, in the life and ministry of the Church there are certain boundaries set for women, for their own and common good. They can prophesy, that is, speak words of "edification, exhortation and comfort" under the anointing of the Spirit (Acts 2:17, 18; 21:9; 1 Cor 14:3; 11:5). But the Bible does not permit them to "teach" (1 Tim 2:12). That is, a woman cannot teach doctrines in the Church. The teaching of doctrine carries with it a sense of authority and great responsibility (2 Cor 13:10; Js 3:1). This women are not called to do. Apostle Paul gives the reason why. "Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression" (1 Tim 2:14). Women in general are more prone to deception than men. When Paul wrote to the Corinthians that it was shameful for women to "speak" in Church, he was not referring to prophesying, praying or testifying (1 Cor 14:34, 35). The Corinthian women were interrupting the speakers in the Church asking questions. Paul felt it was not decent and orderly. Therefore he suggested that the wives clear their doubts by discussing with their husbands at home (v 40). Each one should remain with God in that calling in which he is called (1 Cor 7:24). Instead of coveting the responsibilities delegated to men, women should specialise in areas where their gifts and talents can be gracefully used for the glory of God. Why touch the forbidden fruit when there are so many other fruits? For example, women can teach women how to fulfil their God-given role at home and in the society (Tit 2:4, 5). We need Miriams to lead women in praise and worship (Ex 15:20, 21). There is always a scarcity for Dorcases to show love in action (Acts 9:36, 39 Prov 31:20). Women can serve as helpers in the ministrial teams, both locally and translocally (Lk 8:1-3; Phil 4:3; Rom 16:6). We read about a deaconess in the Church at Cenchrea (Rom 16:1, 2). Undeniably women are the best teachers for children, because of their motherly character (Prov 1:8; 31:28). God has greatly used many women in the mission fields. In a country like India, especially in the rural areas, women alone can reach women. Nearly fifty percent of Indians is women! Wanted women like Anna to go on sharing the message of redemption! (Lk 2:36-38). As long as they don't assume a dominant role, wives are not prohibitted from sharing in the ministry of their husbands, like Priscilla (Acts 18:25, 26). They can very well involve in counselling individuals or explaining the Scriptures even to men. The authoritative teaching in the common assembly is what is discouraged. They can always share words of edification and testimonies of God's grace. In the Bible about twenty apostles are named and all were male. The pastors or elders were always men. Note, an elder was to be the "husband" of one wife! (1 Tim 3:2; Tit 1:6). The leadership in the Church is reserved for men as in the home. Let's not reverse roles!

Oh well... I know what role I play now.... best clean the cave

[Ab Origine]

Hi Folks...

Hi Folks..

lol - this whole religion - its a JOKE isn't it..??..lol...

Adam was NOT deceived, but Eve was..lol....Really..?...More like - Eve was deceived first, if we want to look at it that way, but personally I say the Angel there was HELPING US not hindering us - but anyway, BOTH Adam and Eve end up with the same truth, BOTH accept it AS truth - so if there is any deception then surely they BOTH fell for it...See, Eve believed the Angel, and then Adam believed Eve and both got deceived so it says - it doesnt matter WHO gave them the deception, as they are both equally to blame for ACCEPTING it regardless of how they came to know it..

It is wholly unjust then, unwarranted - to punish the female for some supposed "transgression" when in actual truth BOTH are equally guilty OF that transgression.. Just goes to show that the god there and the religion of its name, are not interested in legitimate truth, are only interested in there own authority, worldly power and personal status.. As He said Folks - just DAMN those Pharisees - they have no spiritual truth to give you He said, and will lead you astray ON PURPOSE.. Its probably best to shun that religion entirely just as he advised... Everything we look at closely just seems to bare this truth out and we can see clearly WHY He would give us such repeated advise often....

[sky]

Originally Posted by Ab Origine

Hi Folks...

Hi Folks..

lol - this whole religion - its a JOKE isn't it..??..lol...

Adam was NOT deceived, but Eve was..lol....Really..?...More like - Eve was deceived first, if we want to look at it that way, but persnally I say the Angel there was HELPING US not hindering us - but anyway, BOTH Adam and Eve end up with the same truth, BOTH accept it AS truth - so if there is any deception then surely they BOTH fell for it...See, Eve believed the Angel, and then Adam believed Eve and both got deceived so it says - it doesnt matter WHO gave them the deception, as they are both equally to blame for ACCEPTING it regardless of how they came to know it..

It is wholly unjust then, unwarranted - to punish the female for some supposed "transgression" when in actual truth BOTH are equally guilty OF that transgression.. Just goes to show that the god there and the religion of its name, are not interested in legitimate truth, are only interested in there own authority, worldly power and personal status.. As He said Folks - just DAMN those Pharisees - they have no spiritual truth to give you He said, and will lead you astray ON PURPOSE.. Its probably best to shun that religion entirely just as he advised... Everything we look at closely just seems to bare this truth out and we can see clearly WHY He would give us such repeated advise often....

Adam & Eve they should be called Evo & Lution