What I believe full enlightenment is

Questions · #1 14-08-2019, 11:29 PM

https://www.dharmaoverground.org/dis...essage/5224358

I've had some glimpses/experiences explained by that guy and I don't think he's lying but who knows

What do you guys think

utopiandreamchild · #2 14-08-2019, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Questions

https://www.dharmaoverground.org/dis...essage/5224358

I've had some glimpses/experiences explained by that guy and I don't think he's lying but who knows

What do you guys think

If you love it then it's for you. If not then look elsewhere. Amen

inavalan · #3 15-08-2019, 12:05 AM

Interesting account ... What I don't get, is why would one do this. Is it a shortcut in one's evolvement?

All those technicalities sound interesting, but what are they accomplishing toward one's evolvement. There must be souls who evolve without going through that process toward the same goal.

All those enlightened people belonging to so different religions, have different, unmatching visions. So they might witness the "truth", but don't really see it, or perceive it.

For me, enlightenment is becoming lucid to the essence that incarnated in you, in a similar way to becoming lucid in your dream.

running · #4 15-08-2019, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Questions

https://www.dharmaoverground.org/dis...essage/5224358

I've had some glimpses/experiences explained by that guy and I don't think he's lying but who knows

What do you guys think

sounds right. the guru also has some spiritual gifts like leaving the body. these folks are putting all there devotion on it. and why they become so powerful.

i got into truck driving because i felt like it pays me for spiritual development. as driving is like a meditation. and my strength is with nature so as i drive i get a transmission from whats around me. but im trying to make enough money to be able to devote more of my time more directly like these folks are. i don't consider ever being able to all in like them. but they imspire me for the love of devotion and simplicity as a practice for spiritual development.

thank you for sharing!

running · #5 15-08-2019, 01:13 AM

the lower dan tien. sounds like the void. silence. the masculine aspect.

the middle dan tien. the bliss/current that fillls one with joy. the feminine aspect.

the upper dien. sounds like he is referring to the crown being fully open. which would have to be for the other dan tiens to be.

he also speaks about the different ways of opening to it. one from the crown. dripping down. opening the rest. the other from inside. perhaps the opening of the heart. that then opens the rest.

interesting. everything he says makes sense in the most basic ways. which to me gives validity. when it takes mountains of information to try to explain something. its because its just a lot of non sense imo. he does elaborate in some perceptions perhaps a bit. but it's all right on target to what it really is. that's how i read it anyways.

would love to have a transmission from that guy! lol. sounds like he has power!

Questions · #6 15-08-2019, 01:26 AM

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the lower dan tien. sounds like the void. silence. the masculine aspect.

the middle dan tien. the bliss/current that fillls one with joy. the feminine aspect.

the upper dien. sounds like he is referring to the crown being fully open. which would have to be for the other dan tiens to be.

I had this experience of not feeling my body, my breathing stopping and having no sense of time (void?) and one's I came out of it I could feel the bliss and joy for a while but it didn't last. I could even do it daily for a while but I think at some point I got attached to the feeling of joy/bliss like a addict wanting his next "high". I guess I need to live in the practice instead of going for the state if that makes sense

running · #7 15-08-2019, 01:35 AM

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I had this experience of not feeling my body, my breathing stopping and having no sense of time (void?) and one's I came out of it I could feel the bliss and joy for a while but it didn't last. I could even do it daily for a while but I think at some point I got attached to the feeling of joy/bliss like a addict wanting his next "high". I guess I need to live in the practice instead of going for the state if that makes sense

thats the programming of society. which has rubbed off onto some spiritual thinking. the truth is. and nobody has to agree with me. bliss and silence are the teacher. so anytime one experinces that they have just been given a teaching of what they are and what is most real. the aspects of god which we all are is bliss and silence. so transmisaions if they are worthy would bring one to that. with enough teachings from ones true nature one becomes that in experience permanently. its where everything comes from and goes back to. it dissolves what people think of as karma and so on. in short. it is god.

running · #8 15-08-2019, 01:41 AM

continued. for me. i would devote my time away from work and responsibility to experince the bliss and silence. that way my life stayed in order while transcending from experinces of to permenant. then its the new normal. you cant crave what you are and have in abundance.

Questions · #9 15-08-2019, 01:44 AM

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thats the programming of society. which has rubbed off onto some spiritual thinking. the truth is. and nobody has to agree with me. bliss and silence are the teacher. so anytime one experinces that they have just been given a teaching of what they are and what is most real. the aspects of god which we all are is bliss and silence. so transmisaions if they are worthy would bring one to that. with enough teachings from ones true nature one becomes that in experience permanently. its where everything comes from and goes back to. it dissolves what people think of as karma and so on. in short. it is god.

Yes I also believe that that is our natural state what I'm trying to find out is how to stay in it. I've heard some buddhist monks say it's just a experience and also shows impermanence and nothing to cling to. I now do see clinging to the experience isn't the way but I think they don't realise what it is that brought them into that state in the first place and what made them fall out of it so they end up saying what they say.

Again maybe they are right but from the stories you hear and read it IS a permanent state.

Questions · #10 15-08-2019, 01:47 AM

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continued. for me. i would devote my time away from work and responsibility to experince the bliss and silence. that way my life stayed in order while transcending from experinces of to permenant. then its the new normal. you cant crave what you are and have in abundance.

I am lucky now that I don't have to work and can practice pretty much all day I just have to stop being lazy at times