Physical immortality

Originally Posted by IsleWalker

How come no one asked the question--Why would we want to live forever?

I guess it's because I do accept the premise that we are here to "learn". And part of the learning is that the "rules" force us to face things quickly, in the time of a life. Otherwise, this physical world wouldn't be different than the higher dimensions. (Yes, I believe in them too.)

So, to me this is a moot point. Whether one could or not is irrelevant. Whether you would want to is more important.

I personally--wouldn't want to. What a God-awful, lonely life, restricted to one vibrational level. Why would you want this? To gather wealth? Knowledge?

Two Cents by IsleWalker - Lora

Why would it be a one vibrational level? The vibration flowing through all life in connectedness is always here and now...so is it just about wealth and knowledge? The only thing that may come into it is our physical vessel and the aging process.

[IsleWalker]

Originally Posted by silent whisper

Why would it be a one vibrational level? The vibration flowing through all life in connectedness is always here and now...so is it just about wealth and knowledge? The only thing that may come into it is our physical vessel and the aging process.

Again, my interpretation: I do believe there are different dimensions separated by a kind of membrane. All in one dimension share a vibrational range. It feels like it is just he physics of energy somehow.

But in order to be physical, the vibrational level is relatively low, falling within a low range. At least that's my understanding.

Lora

Originally Posted by IsleWalker

...I guess it's because I do accept the premise that we are here to "learn". And part of the learning is that the "rules" force us to face things quickly, in the time of a life. Otherwise, this physical world wouldn't be different than the higher dimensions. (Yes, I believe in them too.)

So, to me this is a moot point. Whether one could or not is irrelevant. Whether you would want to is more important.

What about reincarnation? The reincarnation traditions hold that it can take thousands of lifetimes to 'learn' everything. I'm not so sure the one-lifetime-to-a-person POV should be offered so matter-of-factly.

And as to whether or not a person would want to - a highly individual decision as well.

Originally Posted by IsleWalker

Again, my interpretation: I do believe there are different dimensions separated by a kind of membrane. All in one dimension share a vibrational range. It feels like it is just he physics of energy somehow.

But in order to be physical, the vibrational level is relatively low, falling within a low range. At least that's my understanding.

Lora

The thing is it is widely agreed that the spiritual dimension is timeless. This, to me, is the purpose of Materiality, to force change through time and form.

Originally Posted by IsleWalker

Again, my interpretation: I do believe there are different dimensions separated by a kind of membrane. All in one dimension share a vibrational range. It feels like it is just he physics of energy somehow.

But in order to be physical, the vibrational level is relatively low, falling within a low range. At least that's my understanding.

Lora

Yes we all share the range I agree...but are sharing and feeling two aspects of that range? Is knowing enough to live it as one?

I feel that when we tap into those dimensions, we can feel it all....the low range is apart of it.....if one likes to refer to it as that..to me the range you refer too is all encompassing...sharing, feeling as one...and yes my feelings are my own....

Originally Posted by Humm

The thing is it is widely agreed that the spiritual dimension is timeless. This, to me, is the purpose of Materiality, to force change through time and form.

Im throwing this one in: Just because it is agreed upon does not nescesarily make it true. It is also widely agreed that we have to learn all these things through life here on Earth and that indicates that on some level even time in the spirit world moves. So maybe time is so abstract in the spiritual dimension that timeless is our primitive way of perceiving it? just a ponder from my strange head head

I think one of the questions besides physical immortality was if you also could learn to change the vibration of your physical body so it could travel to other dimensions. For that to happen you would have to learn to exist in more than one vibration... so maybe it would not be so dull. You could still attend classes in the spirit world if you needed to or play dodge ball with the fairies or something

Originally Posted by Bjoorka

Im throwing this one in: Just because it is agreed upon does not nescesarily make it true. It is also widely agreed that we have to learn all these things through life here on Earth and that indicates that on some level even time in the spirit world moves. So maybe time is so abstract in the spiritual dimension that timeless is our primitive way of perceiving it? just a ponder from my strange head head

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...4&postcount=95

Originally Posted by Bjoorka

I think one of the questions besides physical immortality was if you also could learn to change the vibration of your physical body so it could travel to other dimensions. For that to happen you would have to learn to exist in more than one vibration... so maybe it would not be so dull. You could still attend classes in the spirit world if you needed to or play dodge ball with the fairies or something

I see such planer travel all the time right on this forum - I see no reason people will suddenly stop doing it.

Originally Posted by Humm

I see such planer travel all the time right on this forum - I see no reason people will suddenly stop doing it.

Neither do I

Do not know if I completely grasped all in that link though it seems at this moment it is setteling in my mind. But still is it not possible that time is so abstract that we might have a hard time comprehending it in human form? Here is an abstract (and probably far out there) idea I wrote in another threat:

Don't know if I can explain this. It is a thought I had over 10 years ago. The now I have right now as I write this might have happened an infinite times and therefore has my past and is still doing then creating more nows that will come as past experiences from the point of view I have right now as the infinite nows of this moment that has past in some way will be future. So if you could enter the timeline in one of those past moments that is happening now and not one of those that have happened you could change your past from that point. Then any future you create from that point will be changed but not those that have happened. Did anyone understand this ...

[IsleWalker]

Originally Posted by silent whisper

Yes we all share the range I agree...but are sharing and feeling two aspects of that range? Is knowing enough to live it as one?

I feel that when we tap into those dimensions, we can feel it all....the low range is apart of it.....if one likes to refer to it as that..to me the range you refer too is all encompassing...sharing, feeling as one...and yes my feelings are my own....

Silent W--

Yes, I do agree we feel other dimensions--with our consciousness. But until we are out of physical bodies, we can't fully integrate in those dimensions. We are partially blocked just by our dense physicality.

And so my point was that being physical precludes raising of vibrational levels beyond a specific level--unless whole earth does at once. And then the assumption seems to be that we become less physical as a species.

At least that's what I hear. Who knows?

IsleWalker - Lora

Originally Posted by IsleWalker

Who knows?

Not me

About that level cap... I do not believe in limitations