Would God do something like this

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Originally Posted by grue21

...However God will have been powerless to act as this man wasnt a Christian....

That's the first I've heard that God is ever powerless. I'm glad my God isn't so limited and petty.

First let me say that I agree with The Sphinx.

Grue21, you say that "God is good and only good comes from Him." If this is true, where does the opposite of good come from? Remember, God created the world/universe. Did he also create evil, the devil, Satan? If Satan chose to be evil out of his own free will, then didn't God create the duality of good and evil so that such a choice could be made? But you say that only good comes from God.

Do you believe in two separate and distinct powers, one good and the other evil?

Id have to agree with bluegreen.

But id have to say, theres no real connection in the bible stating satan is evil, or event hat lucifer and satan are the same person.

IF god can only do good, then evil wouldnt have been created in teh first place, no one would die, there wouldnt be war, greed hate or anything. And of course that would mean god couldnt have done 90% of the things he has done ( wipe out humanity, caue plagues, rules that are double standard, be hypocritical about his rules, be jelous, vengeful), because soemthing fully good cannot by its own rules do anything bad.

Therefore, there are only 3 things to say abotu it:

1) god and satan do not exsist as the bible says, but is only an old interpretation on something that is inharently in us

2)God isnt perfect, just liek we arent, becasue its becomming more and more clear that perfection is only an illusion.... remember god (they) made us in his ( their) image.....

3) god an satan are the same diety, givin a duelistic POV by us, who cant comprehend the fact that sometimes bad things happen


Once again, we are all missing the main POV here. 2 people were harmed. One by another person, and one i obviously not all there ( if the charge is real, i know quite a few cases here where nothing happened, just a woman looking for attention). They both need help, and should be cared for properly to figure out exactly why it happened in the first place.

Pondering if god is punishing him for it is moot. IT blinds us to the fact that our society is letting these things happen, and because we are all part of society, we all let it happen ( guilty by association).

Both of these people in question need help. Putting the blame on god is just using him as a scapegoat, and finding an excuse to bring religion into a situatin that isnt nessacaraly religious in the first place.

Instead of casting blame, how about trying to help your friend ina non biased, non religious way?

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Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Originally Posted by Shim

No, not at all. I'm asking does anyone see the consequences of sin from His actions, whether he raped or not, that is still to be determined by a court of law. That is to say whether even these are false charges.

I always felt uncomfortable having an acquaintance in my cell phone directory that was an unbeliever. His closest friend, a Christian, said, and only said, I think that this is a sign for me by God, to listen more to what He instructs us to do. He had said what I was thinking that very moment.

He was invited by us many times to attend Church, to go to study meetings and such, and always mocked us in some way ever subtle at times. I hate to see this happen to anyone, I don't know the woman or whether He had done this, but that is to be determined by the court of Law.

I hope that some will pray that Justice be done, and that truth will prevail.

Shim, you say that you "always felt uncomfortable having an acquaintance in my cell phone directory that was an unbeliever." You make it sound as if this person is a leper.

Could this be a lesson, not for that person although action is necessarily followed by reaction, but for you and others among your acquaintances who regard him as a sinner/unbeliever, namely to learn to show God's love which He gives to all His creation equally and unconditionally?

By the way, I do not believe in sin. I believe in lessons.

Originally posted by Shim Amongst some friends we asked ourselves whether God might do this to someone?

God is a person?

[theophilus]

Originally Posted by Bluegreen

God is a person?

Since humans were made in God's image it follows that God is a person, although without our faults and limitations.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Bluegreen

God is a person?

Well, no, of course not.
(And Bluegreen - I hope you know I'm not talking to you here - but just anyone - I know you are someone
with great insight. And are my spiritual sister.)

Being made in His image is hugely misunderstood or misinterpreted or mistaught, thus, ingrained and fixed in some people's concepts...
Primitive Man thinking of God as a gray bearded Man in the Sky. This spritually immature thinking is still so prevalent even today.

What does 'in His image' really mean?

Who will ever truly know the depth and breadth of that sentence found in the Old Testament.
Certanly not me with my limited mind -man's mind is in itself by definition limited.

Anyone that thinks he knows definitively what this could mean is in for a surprise and stifles himself from the natural unfoldment of spiritual discovery and revelation.
Genesis 1:27 Douay-Rheims Bible, "And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them..."

Could it mean in the flesh or in the spirit or both - does it mean the spaces in the atoms - the nucleus, or our very DNA?

Could it be referring to the light that lighteth every man that cometh into this world?

Does it mean further that our brains have the ability to interface with our Creator because of the way our brains are made - after all it at any moment our brains
are performing 400 billion actions - we are only aware of 2000.

We have 100 million nerve cells, neurons, that look like trees in our brains and each ''tree' can have 70,000 'branches' - dendrites ----which translates to having 3 million years worth of storage space.
These dendrites constantly are taking in information, processing and
having all sorts of electrical transferances with our synapses - firing constantly...

It gives a whole different perspective to 'in His image' ----and our ability to interface with our Creator.

Doesn't it?



Now, is our Creator a living, feeling Being, Entity, Spirit - beyond our wildest imagnations -----
You better believe it!!!!!!!!

Beyond what even Gene Roddenberry could imagine!! And that's something.

Bluegreen - do they have 'Star Trek The Next Generation' where you are? Ha!

Miss Hepburn

(And Bluegreen - I hope you know I'm not talking to you here - but just anyone - I know you are someone
with great insight. And are my spiritual sister.)

Hello sister. Yes, we do think alike, don't we. Curious you call me sister. Most people think I am male. What gave me away?

We may get reruns of Star Trek the Next Generation but not right now.
Loved the Star Trek series.
Hmmm...off topic.

I personally think that the man is just facing consequences from his lifestyle. To my understanding, God doesn't punish people.

I agree with you also, when you say that sin has consequences . I think that's all this was .

Hope I helped you at least a little :)