Canadian government apologises to Indigenous people.

[skygazer]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

The First Nations been hammered long ago. There are only fragments of their great cultures left today. Now it has become a racial and class issue. The haves vs. the have not. 500 years from now the mountains of the west will be like Afganistan. Populated by roving bands of Mad Max like extremeists.

do you mean "racial and class issue" within the FN people themselves?

[skygazer]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

Can anyone explain why this was done in the first place?

at the core, if you want to obliterate a culture, you begin with the children, they're the most easiest to influence...

that is what is being taught in Indigenous studies in universities now...it was systematic manipulation to do away with the 'Native American' out of the children. They didn't count on just how deep the ties to the land and their families ran, how repugnant the 'white' ways were to the kids; their spirit was strong. Some stopped eating, talking, etc. They were beaten and some fought back. You can see how those would be done away with first.

The meeker ones ended up going to the military, and turned to Catholicism.

[Thunder Bow]

Originally Posted by skygazer

do you mean "racial and class issue" within the FN people themselves?

No. First Nation people would be the have nots. The racial and class issue is within our society as a whole.

[Thunder Bow]

Originally Posted by skygazer

at the core, if you want to obliterate a culture, you begin with the children, they're the most easiest to influence...

that is what is being taught in Indigenous studies in universities now...it was systematic manipulation to do away with the 'Native American' out of the children. They didn't count on just how deep the ties to the land and their families ran, how repugnant the 'white' ways were to the kids; their spirit was strong. Some stopped eating, talking, etc. They were beaten and some fought back. You can see how those would be done away with first.

The meeker ones ended up going to the military, and turned to Catholicism.

Why did the white settlers want to "obliterate" Native Cultures? Look at the goals if ISIS, is it not the same with them in their land? This exact thing is still going on today. Nothing has changed.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

No. First Nation people would be the have nots. The racial and class issue is within our society as a whole.

There are not only the 'have nots', they are the 'what we are not' according to the colonial settlers. In Saids expose on 'Orientism' he sums it up. Aboriginal peoples of Australia have never ceded sovereignty of the Aboriginal nation through any treaty with the colonial settlers, and because of that, the 'invasion' of Australia is ongoing. Aboriginal scholars are in the process of redressing colonial history as a way of reinstating their heritage as the original occupants of the land. It's a quiet revolution, but it has pervaded the universities, and in a generation from now, Australian history will be redrawn, and the Aboriginal Peoples will hold a more prominent influence in the modern culture...

[Shaunc]

In Australia up until the late 60's aboriginal people didn't have the right to vote.

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

Can anyone explain why this was done in the first place?

Métis & Inuit Children at Residential Schools

Prior to the 1800s, few opportunities for formal European-based education were available for Metis children. Treaty provisions for education did not include theses children who were considered "halfbreeds" and not Indians. It wasn't until the Northwest Half-breed Claims Royal Commission of 1885 that the federal government addressed the issue of Métis education. The Catholic church, already a strong presence in Métis society, began instruction Métis children in the Red River area of Manitoba in the 1800s. Despite these efforts, many Métis parents struggled to find schools that would accept their children and would often have to pay tuition for their education.

Attendance at residential school, where the use of Aboriginal languages was prohibited, resulted in the erosion of an integral part of Métis culture. Residential schools profoundly affected Métis communities, a fact often overlooked in the telling of the history of residential schools in Canada.

Although policies to manage "Indian Affairs" were being devised in Ottawa as the numbered treaties were signed across the Prairies in the 1870s, it was not until 1924 that Inuit were affected by the Indian Act, and not until the mid-1950s that residential schools began to operate in the North. For Inuit, the Residential School System was but one facet of a massive and rapid sweep of cultural change that included the introduction of Christianity; forced relocation and settlement; the slaughter of hundreds of sled dogs eliminating the only means of travel for many Inuit; the spread of tuberculosis and small pox and the corresponding mandatory southward medical transport; the introduction of RCMP throughout the Arctic; and other disruptions to the centureis-old Inuit way of life.

I think the Catholics ruled with a heavy hand, or believed that to be an affective method of control. Having the outlook that all Indigineous peoples were savages and needed reform. It happened all over. Ask anyone over the age of 60 if they went to a Catholic school, how they were treated. The veils are being lifted and some pretty disgusting stuff is being uncovered.

It's amazing that it is now only being apologized for.

The Red River thing is a completely different story though isn't it?

[skygazer]

Originally Posted by Thunder Bow

No. First Nation people would be the have nots. The racial and class issue is within our society as a whole.

I got you.

Why did the white settlers want to "obliterate" Native Cultures? Look at the goals if ISIS, is it not the same with them in their land? This exact thing is still going on today. Nothing has changed.

I don't much follow what the news media claim is going on with ISIS, to my mind, the system is attempting to turn men against fellow men, playing both sides of the fence. The more of us that die at the hand of each other the better this dark system is.

But about FN people, it was all for the purpose of control and the ignorant mind set.
All the different tribes were thriving before anyone got here. North America was their land and they called it Turtle Island.

The Garrison Mentality – A garrison is a fort on top of a hill looking down on the people below. The philosophy is to build the biggest fence you can to keep the heathens away from the fort at the top of hill; to protect themselves.

Any culture has norms and values, these come from our parents, schools, etc.
The British knew this, the first thing they did was attack the norms. They cut the hair of the young children that they took away to the residential schools, changed their dress, forbid their language.

They understood that a cultural group shares norms and values with the next generation. If they are not sharing their values with the children their culture is dead or dying.

This community is the only one that has a card that states they are human, and this card is required to be renewed. Just pure and simple control of a people.

For an Aboriginal to become a lawyer in Canada before 1999, they had to give up their Indian status.

[Thunder Bow]

News Media or not, ISIS is doing in their land what has been going on in our land for the past 100s of years. It is all the same. You are right, religion is all about control and social order. Same harsh mean spirited things are still going on all around the world. Why are these people are so mean?

[Star Wolf Medicine Woman]

The biggest cause of war is religopn, the second biggest is grabbing assets and we all know about The Black Hills Gold...
There are similarities in 'Taking Candy from a baby' its done because its easy, not because it is right... There was nothing 'Right' about what was and is still being done to innocent people of all nations...
The Reconciliation ' document made 94 recommendations, amazing isn't it that they have not publicised exactly what they are, unless someone has a copy of this report that took so long to produce....
A Recommendation is not legally binding...
Do you remember all those 437 Treaties signed by the US government, they never kept their word in any of those, so will this be any different...

This might be yet another whitewash..... just more of the same.