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Old 21-04-2017, 09:54 AM
kisalipa kisalipa is offline
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You need not leave the family bonds for the sake of God

Q) Shri Dr. Nikhil asked(on phone), One of my relative says “You need not leave the family bonds for the sake of God. We believe in the existence of creator. Doing Social service is good and that is also not compulsory. Spiritual progress is selfish only.”. Please comment on these remarks.
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No body told that you should leave family bonds for the sake of God. For your information, by leaving family bonds, you cannot get the grace of God. What I told was simply that the family bonds get spontaneously dropped due to your over attachment to God. If I say that if one drinks divine nectar, he will leave coffee, this doesn't mean that you should leave coffee for getting divine nectar. Infact, even if you leave coffee for the whole life, divine nectar can't be obtained. The reality is that if you taste divine nectar, you will naturally leave coffee spontaneously without any effort for it. Infact, if you are attached to anything strongly, you will leave even the awareness of the rest atmosphere. When you are absorbed in seeing a cinema, you are not aware of even mosquito bites. Hence, the concept is misunderstood. Therefore, if one leaves the family and goes out, he will not attain the grace of God. If a devotee is absorbed in God, he gets detached from the family bonds internally while staying with the family. Detachment and attachment should be internal and both are expressed externally when the occasion demands. External exposure of both these need not be continuous. Moreover, a better suggested way is always that you should keep your attachment to God secretly in case of the opposition of external atmosphere. You must act as if you are attached to the external atmosphere while attaching yourself to God internally and secretly. This is the best way in order to reach your divine goal while not hurting any ignorant person. Ofcourse, you must make a trial to see whether your family members also get interest in the spiritual knowledge and reach the divine goal along with you. If you succeed, it is good. Infact, you should start the propagation of spiritual knowledge from your home only. But, if you find that the family members are of lower materialistic level, you must hide the higher level of spiritual knowledge and introduce God to them in the beginning level, which is to worship God to get materialistic benefits. You should not cross more than this level in their case unless they are ripened to receive the higher knowledge. This is the case not only about your family members but also about the majority of people, which is in the lower level only. You will get devotees of higher level of spiritual knowledge very rarely only. Hence, your personal progress in spiritual path is always with very limited people only. Unless you progress individually, you can't help other and such progress is not selfishness.

You should not say that spiritual progress is selfish. Society is made of individuals. Each individual is self and subject related to that self is selfish. Where is collective without individual? Even while doing social service, you have to serve individuals only. The service done to an individual is selfish as per your concept. It means that social service is only a collective bundle of individual selfish services. You say that you accept the existence of Creator. The Creator also accepts your existence in this creation. Is this sufficient? Should you not get the grace of Creator? You can get his grace only when you are attached to Him theoretically as well as practically.

The main basic point is that fascination or over attachment to your family bonds is resulting in corruption, which is a sin especially when you are looting the poor people. You may not do social service to poor people and get heaven. Atleast stop your corruption in the case of poor people and avoid the hell. If heaven and hell are absent, what is the incentive for anybody to do social service? Similarly, what is the fear that can prevent the sin of corruption? If God, who is giving punishment even if you escape the law here is not cared, the control of sin becomes impossible. Dont think that God simply created this and is sitting aloof so that your recognition of His mere existence is sufficient. He is often proving His existence in several ways to this world so that every soul should be aware of His existence and capability of punishing the sinners.

God never wants your personal attachment to Him. God discourages such attachment by creating problems in the spiritual path. His ultimate goal and ultimate expectation from humanity is Pravrutti only. Pravrutti means doing justice or atleast not doing injustice or sin. Fear is unable to bring any such change in the soul. Thiests believe in God, heaven and hell, but, still are doing sins. They think that worship or service(rituals) to God will neutralise their sins. This is totally a wrong concept. One will go to heaven for good deeds and will go to hell for bad deeds. Good deeds cannot neutralise any bad deed. Fruits are separate and you have to enjoy both the fruits separately. Unless, you are reformed totally, your bad deeds can't be cancelled. Reformation means not repeating the sin practically. Except this one way there is no other way that can cancel the sin. Such reformation can be attained by spiritual knowledge and devotion to God. Devotion to God means over attachment to God. By such over attachment, the family bonds will be atleast partially detached so that the sin can be controlled to some extent atleast. Devotion to God has it own supermost result of getting the grace of God on the soul forever. When one reaches the climax of devotion to God all the family bonds are dropped naturally and spontaneously in internal way, which is real and total. In the path of Nivrutti, achievement of Pravrutti is just a side effect or a bi-product.

In the absence of devotion to God, the fascination to family bonds can't be reduced by any other attraction. One can sympathize poor people, but can't be attracted by the poor people so that service can be done to them. The personality of God alone is attractive. In the attraction to personality of God, one does social service to poor people along with preaching spiritual knowledge and devotion so that God (to whom the devotees is very much attracted) is pleased. Such attraction alone is effective in doing the social service with real spirit. In absence of God, heaven and hell, so many questions will come..- Why should I do social service to poor people? What is the benefit for me in doing the social service? If I don't help the poor what is the loss to me? If I loot the poor people and escape the law here with the help of tricks and advocates, what is the loss to me? All these questions will come even to the brain of ordinary level of intelligence. The policy of your relative is unable to give answer for any of these questions. Your relative is satisfied by saying that social service is not compulsary. But, does your relative agree that control of corruption is compulsary, in the absence of which, one day this entire society is cracked into pieces? When your relative agrees the existence of Creator, did the Creator simply created this world and left it to it own fate? Once anybody creates anything, it is the duty of the creator to maintain it. Even human beings create issues and do not leave them to their fate. They do proper administration and bring up their children to a perfect level with high responsibility. In such case, the Creator also has the responsibility to provide good administration to this world to keep the humanity in the correct line. Simply accepting the Creator is not sufficient. You must accept the Creator also to be the administrator. Otherwise, your relative is not at all different from an athiest, who does all the sins without belief in existence of God. You must accept the capability of administration also along with the existence of God. Then only you can be considered as a perfect thiest.
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