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16-08-2019, 03:11 AM
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Knower
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Do you agree with the free will concept?
According to this guy, over 90% of people don't have free will because they're living on autopilot and in their "island of comfort".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32dq4cJhl2U |
16-08-2019, 07:46 AM
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Master
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Hello,
There seems to be some confusion about free will. It is not an intellectual thing but a way of being kind of choice.
The energy of our intentions is known by all, at levels beyond the intellect, and that puts into motion a great many things.
At any moment we can shift our perceptions. Eolevate them or de-evolve them. That is the power of free will very few of us seem to understand.
John
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16-08-2019, 09:22 AM
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Knower
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Originally Posted by John32241
At any moment we can shift our perceptions. Elevate them or de-evolve them. That is the power of free will very few of us seem to understand.
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Nicely put and totally agree with this (I was confused about where the 90% figure came from!) |
16-08-2019, 02:13 PM
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Master
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Just because human beings utilize their free will by making poor choices does not mean that they don't have free will.
In fact, the making of even poor choices demonstrates the truth of free will.
Otherwise, God would simply be an autocrat, and we would be automatons.
Rather, what is happening is that God is really a slave of our free-will. |
16-08-2019, 02:15 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by SapphireBlue
Nicely put and totally agree with this (I was confused about where the 90% figure came from!)
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Hi,
That was this guy's point of view. I did not study his link so I do not know why he would think that. In my view, we all have free choice.
Now some times we get into a state of mind where we are unbalanced and out of control. That could be this 90% he has identified. Yet I would not identify that condition as being unresolvable. Actually more are awakening every day from my perspective.
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16-08-2019, 03:25 PM
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Master
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The clue is love
Love is always unforced & by free will alone
God is Love & Love is God
Hence free will.
As for our delusion in illusion ... Love patiently waits for the lover to awake
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16-08-2019, 03:52 PM
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Anyone interested in free will topics would love the movie "The Adjustment Bureau",
Matt Damon, Emily Blunt. 
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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16-08-2019, 05:17 PM
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re free will...……."Don't you know we are gods?".....this is the actual basis for half the people on these forums who claim to be god.....:)
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16-08-2019, 05:18 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Originally Posted by John32241
There seems to be some confusion about free will. It is not an intellectual thing but a way of being kind of choice.
The energy of our intentions is known by all, at levels beyond the intellect, and that puts into motion a great many things.
At any moment we can shift our perceptions. Elevate them or de-evolve them. That is the power of free will very few of us seem to understand.
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Hello John!
Agreed. Well said.
Peace & blessings 
7L
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Bound by conventions, people tend to reach for what is easy.
Here we must be unafraid of what is difficult.
For all living beings in nature must unfold in their particular way
and become themselves despite all opposition.
-- Rainer Maria Rilke
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16-08-2019, 05:25 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Originally Posted by Jyotir
Just because human beings utilize their free will by making poor choices does not mean that they don't have free will.
In fact, the making of even poor choices demonstrates the truth of free will.
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Jyotir, Hahaha  Yes! Agreed...and does it ever.
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Otherwise, God would simply be an autocrat, and we would be automatons.
Rather, what is happening is that God is really a slave of our free-will.
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 LOL.....!!! (Luckily for us,) that too is by choice...of the purest authentic love we can just barely begin to apprehend. We exist purely on sufferance borne of great love.
Truly, it's a miracle of unknowable proportions
Peace & blessings
7L
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Bound by conventions, people tend to reach for what is easy.
Here we must be unafraid of what is difficult.
For all living beings in nature must unfold in their particular way
and become themselves despite all opposition.
-- Rainer Maria Rilke
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