Do All Insects Go To Heaven?

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

No he didn't. The reason Jesus took three days to resurrect was because of the Winter Solstice. The sun rises and sets at exactly the same points on the horizon for three days after the Winter Solstice, and it's reckoned that this is why Jesus was resurrected three days later, when the days start to get longer.


Indeed, but most Spiritual people don't want to acknowledge that

Are you talking about the Biblical Jesus or are you talking about the Jesus people created?

Being Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew, we have to look at this from the Jewish perspective. At that time Hell did
not exist. That came about later. When a person died, they went to their grave. Remember Lazurus? He went to his grave.

According to Jewish prophecy, Jesus could only be in his grave for parts of 3 days.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Originally Posted by BigJohn
In the Catholic faith, the version of the Apostles' Creed reads:

"was crucified, died and was buried;
he descended into hell;
"

Originally Posted by davidsun

So you believe it. OK. What does that have to do with Utopia's post which yours was a reply(?) to?

I did not say I believe Jesus went to Hell for 3 days.

Just because I quoted a Catholic reference surely does not mean I actually believe that. But then...... in the Jewish belief of that time, Jews believed dead people went to their grave and the later concept of Hell seemed to replace grave with Hell.

If you have issues with Jesus going to Hell, why not take it up with Catholics, it is one of their beliefs.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

If you have issues with Jesus going to Hell, why not take it up with Catholics, it is one of their beliefs.

I have isues with YOU for snarkily posting such 'hellish' post in response to what Utopia said, O Condescending BIG One.

[neil]

Originally Posted by JosephineBloggs

Yes, you did get the drift of my question, and thanks for your reply. I'm glad you have control over it now.

Are your posts a sort of warning to others in case these sort of things were to happen to them also.

Ah so glad I caught your drift.

& yes i see it as a warning, because I can see what happens to so many who are lured & influenced away "from" the path that leads to a "life" of spiritual healthiness & abundance, by beings who influence a person into believing, that every thought that arises within their minds "are" theirs.

And moment by moment, that path grows more perilous for a person with every "single" unloving error that they make.

And so I suggest if you do not agree with my words, then at least commit them to memory, & when you are liberated from the flesh, SCOUR yourself for those beings of whom are very discretely deceptive at bidding within a person.

Through committing unloving thoughts & acts, the ones that are connected to a person have become so depleted of spiritual body & become discretely & completely intergrated within a person.
So when saying SCOUR yourself, I mean to monitor your thoughts.

If your thoughts are not of a humble lovingness of which is our natural construction of Soul'self, then a person should consider that they are recieving thoughts discretely, from another being or set of beings.

For instance, this forum, has or has a member known as "Astral explorer" or similar.
And after hundreds of explorations "out of body", he came to realize that he was being escorted by beings (plural) of which he could not see, & into scenarios of their choice. He refered to as "tri'porting" ,at least from memory, it think that is what he refered to it as.

So I suggest that they were with him 24/7 negatively...& there is absolutely no way that they could allow him to find his way to the lesser spiritual lands (lesser Heavens), as he would then discover the truth of reality. But he would not hear my words.

& so i only suggest to REMEMBER, as the warnings are littered throughout all canon & non canon scripture...although very poorly.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by neil

So I suggest that they were with him 24/7 negatively...& there is absolutely no way that they could allow him to find his way to the lesser spiritual lands (lesser Heavens), as he would then discover the truth of reality. But he would not hear my words.

& so i only suggest to REMEMBER, as the warnings are littered throughout all canon & non canon scripture...although very poorly.

I do believe that one can 'be open' to as well as 'attract' the influence negative (i.e. abusive and exploitive) 'spirits' just as one can negative people who are of course 'spirits' as well.

Here's a link that has material pertaining to how to stop doing so.

https://www.mit.edu/~rei/spir-help.html

Of course, one can also 'be open' to and 'attract' positive (i.e. salubrious) ones as well.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by davidsun

I have isues with YOU for snarkily posting such 'hellish' post in response to what Utopia said, O Condescending BIG One.

Sounds like you have issues......
not just with me but the Catholic Church and a few other Churches.

If you read what I wrote, I posed it initially as a question.

How can a question be offensive let alone stir your emotions so as to have issues with me?


NAMASTE.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Sounds like you have issues......
not just with me but the Catholic Church and a few other Churches.

If you read what I wrote, I posed it initially as a question.

How can a question be offensive let alone stir your emotions so as to have issues with me?


NAMASTE.

The statement itself is 'innocent' - my take/question about the nature of its/your 'spirit' arises from the context. I have already shared my logic in this regard.

If the shoe doesn't fit then don't wear it. Just know that I do not subscribe to your public posture.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

No he didn't. The reason Jesus took three days to resurrect was because of the Winter Solstice. The sun rises and sets at exactly the same points on the horizon for three days after the Winter Solstice, and it's reckoned that this is why Jesus was resurrected three days later, when the days start to get longer.


Indeed, but most Spiritual people don't want to acknowledge that

I had to think what you wrote about Jesus resurrection because of the Winter Solstice and realized this not really true.

Sure, the Winter Solstice did play a role but not like how you claim. The first month of the Jewish calendar (Nisan) began
on the first New Moon after the Spring Equinox which occurs about 90-92 after the Winter Solstice. Passover occurred 14 days
later on Nisan 14 during a full moon.

Noting this,
Jesus died on Passover which occurred at a minimum 14 days after the Spring Equinox.

Then there is the time he was in his grave

and then the resurrection.

As you can see, over 15 weeks had transpired since the Winter Solstice so what you wrote, really did not have a bearing on the matter.

[neil]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

I had to think what you wrote about Jesus resurrection because of the Winter Solstice and realized this not really true.

Sure, the Winter Solstice did play a role but not like how you claim. The first month of the Jewish calendar (Nisan) began
on the first New Moon after the Spring Equinox which occurs about 90-92 after the Winter Solstice. Passover occurred 14 days
later on Nisan 14 during a full moon.

Noting this,
Jesus died on Passover which occurred at a minimum 14 days after the Spring Equinox.

Then there is the time he was in his grave

and then the resurrection.

As you can see, over 15 weeks had transpired since the Winter Solstice so what you wrote, really did not have a bearing on the matter.

The time in his grave !?....what grave?

Not any, spiritual entity spends time in a grave.
In the moment that our spiritual silver cord, is severed, we then naturally drift away from the flesh body.
Earthlings can dig a hole & place a decomposing body in it but we will not be in that hole.

So please explain.

[neil]

Originally Posted by davidsun

I do believe that one can 'be open' to as well as 'attract' the influence negative (i.e. abusive and exploitive) 'spirits' just as one can negative people who are of course 'spirits' as well.

Here's a link that has material pertaining to how to stop doing so.

https://www.mit.edu/~rei/spir-help.html

Of course, one can also 'be open' to and 'attract' positive (i.e. salubrious) ones as well.

Dave I am unable to decipher your words above, your choice of words used in your sentence, does not make it clear to me, as to what you are saying.

I find this issue with most of your posts.

& as far as your link, well that person has absolutely no true understanding of the abilities of Any entity attachments, of beings that choose to approach any Earthling & simply attach.

&, that person has absolutely no idea, that once a spiritual entity makes a connection, soul to soul, well simply said nothing can break that connection bar the person that has made the connection...spiritual knowledge 101.

Unless the person who is unwittingly about to be the host, is 100% transformed in & of the Holy spiritual essence of the almighty one.

You see then that host to be, displays the full armour of Christ, & is impervious to the onslaught of other not so loving entities.

David, are you wearing that armour, are you impervious, if you are, then you should have the full aray of magical abilities that Jesus had. & I suggest you do not...So what is your status in regards to dark entity attachment.
I bet that you believe that you do not have any at this very moment..am I correct.

Ps i wonder if you will reply to this post.