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Old 07-01-2018, 06:43 PM
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Yeah I forgot to mention that. Sometimes angels with a mission or a large message to send to many people will appear as a human being without a clear indication they are angelic. except one. they have no history, they seem to come out of nowhere and seem to go nowhere when they are done with their mission. for most people this small detail goes un-noticed

Shivatar, yes that's true and there are many instances throughout recorded history which may be attributed to this sort of interaction or intervention.

What do you mean by "except one"?

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also I forgot to mention that sometimes they can appear as a child with a light body. its not exclusively an adult but usually is, also usually appearing male from what I hear (but truthfully have no gender/all genders).

All true in my experience also...though interestingly they may appear as human men or women when in disguise and how you first see them shows you something about yourself -- or that's what I realised.

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Old 09-01-2018, 01:43 AM
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So are you speaking about the transcendentals here, or are you speaking to folks with misperceptions about transcendentals, or something else?

Sorry, just trying to follow where you are headed...

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idk man. I've seen like 3 transcendentals here and they dont need any help. so I guess im talking about the regular folks.
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Shivatar, yes that's true and there are many instances throughout recorded history which may be attributed to this sort of interaction or intervention.

What do you mean by "except one"?


All true in my experience also...though interestingly they may appear as human men or women when in disguise and how you first see them shows you something about yourself -- or that's what I realised.

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One exception to being totally un-noticable, they won't have a past or go anywhere when their work is done. they appear out of nowhere, and go back to nowhere when finished.
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idk man. I've seen like 3 transcendentals here and they dont need any help. so I guess im talking about the regular folks.

Hahaha...LOL

Makes sense, just clarifying.

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Old 10-01-2018, 03:22 AM
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One exception to being totally un-noticable, they won't have a past or go anywhere when their work is done. they appear out of nowhere, and go back to nowhere when finished.

Ok I get you now. Yes that is true..."regular angels" come and go all the time and that is the one aspect that is occasionally noted.

But I can't recall seeing archangels "come down" with my naked eyes.
Instead I see them energetically, with my energetic senses. I sense, see and hear them very clearly, but not with my outer sense organs, even if they are right next to me. Also in meditation and lucid dreams. And I know their energy in the waking world and that they touch us and intervene to save lives in so many ways. To me the energy of lovingkindness and awe is so distinct and I "see" them quite clearly, it would be very obvious...even if they came disguised, hahaha!

What about you? Do archangels appear to you "in the flesh" so that you can see them with your naked eyes? (this is what Lorna Byrne experiences, but I think it's very rare because she can see all of them with her naked eyes, just like we could see the sky or the grass or one another). Or do you see them disguised?

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except himself? where is your compassion for those who self-harm?

Please, with all my genuine heart, don't show compassion for those who self-harm. For example if someone tried to cure me of my sadomasochistic tendencies I'd throw him off a cliff.
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Please, with all my genuine heart, don't show compassion for those who self-harm. For example if someone tried to cure me of my sadomasochistic tendencies I'd throw him off a cliff.

wow. so if you see someone burning alive, just let them burn I guess.

Compassion means understanding and to suffer with, it doesn't mean to cure someone.

people usually try to cure other people for selfish reasons. compassion is not based on selfishness.
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Don't take me too literally dark master.

Bend the knee.
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Ok I get you now. Yes that is true..."regular angels" come and go all the time and that is the one aspect that is occasionally noted.

But I can't recall seeing archangels "come down" with my naked eyes.
Instead I see them energetically, with my energetic senses. I sense, see and hear them very clearly, but not with my outer sense organs, even if they are right next to me. Also in meditation and lucid dreams. And I know their energy in the waking world and that they touch us and intervene to save lives in so many ways. To me the energy of lovingkindness and awe is so distinct and I "see" them quite clearly, it would be very obvious...even if they came disguised, hahaha!

What about you Shivatar? Do archangels appear to you "in the flesh" so that you can see them with your naked eyes? (this is what Lorna Byrne experiences, but I think it's very rare because she can see all of them with her naked eyes, just like we could see the sky or the grass or one another). Or do you see them disguised?

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Shivatar hello there!

Well...do you?
Or rather, how do you "see" or sense archangels?
If you don't mind if I ask..

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