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Old 19-01-2018, 02:54 PM
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The Completion Process

I've recently ordered The Completion Process by Teal Swan to attempt to heal trauma/PTSD. Does anyone have this book / tried the process?

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Old 19-01-2018, 03:56 PM
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I haven't read it but apparently it's uses Inner Child Therapy which is good. There are many different methods for dealing with PTSD, you just have to see what's out there and find what works best for you. Some current effective methods for PTSD are EMDR and Somatic Experiencing. Some methods used in the past that are not considered effective today for PTSD are talk-therapy, exposure therapy and CBT.

I use a combination of EMDR, Somatic Experiencing and IFS (similar to Inner Child) with a therapist. Best not to try to do these things all alone, isolation is not very condusive to healing. Another good thing to look into if it fits is Complex PTSD, which is worse than incident specific PTSD (think soldiers, car accidents, etc), because Complex PTSD (CPTSD) is the result of prolonged trauma and often from childhood, which may be sexual abuse, emotional neglect, physical abuse, etc. The least understood and by far the most damaging is the emotional neglect or abuse. It can happen if the parent has a mental illness, is traumatized, depressed, is alcoholic, stressed by the environment, etc. CPTSD can be a more helpful diagnosis if it fits because it can lead to more effective therapies.

People who unknowingly have CPTSD often unconsciously gravitate towards abuse and trauma in life, and sometimes will seek help for PTSD because of specific events, but don't address the underlying trauma from childhood which is the cause. Now that the world is starting to recognize developmental trauma and CPTSD though, people are starting to get the help they need.
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Old 19-01-2018, 10:54 PM
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I have not read her stuff. I have only seen her youtube channel and one article she wrote. I remember liking things she said in her videos, but she didn't stick with me a long time.

Let us know what the book is like. :)
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Old 20-01-2018, 09:20 AM
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Many thanks, Seawolf, for your detailed response. Re ‘seeing what is out there and finding what works for you’ has been a 12 year long journey which has got me no where (apart from relieving me of a great deal of cash). The actual trauma was one which went on for a couple of months, culminating in four days of indescribable fear and this was in my adult life, not childhood. The experience left me with two physical symptoms. So far I have been focusing on physical healing modalities such as cranio sacral therapy, acupuncture, homeopathy, flower essences, reiki, EFT, Tapas Acupressure and recently bowen therapy. None of them have made the slightest impact. So working with the inner child c/o this book will be a new angle and I'm quite happy to work alone, prefer it this way as I'm an extreme introvert and it also has the benefit of not costing me anything.
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Old 20-01-2018, 02:02 PM
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Many thanks, Seawolf, for your detailed response. Re ‘seeing what is out there and finding what works for you’ has been a 12 year long journey which has got me no where (apart from relieving me of a great deal of cash). The actual trauma was one which went on for a couple of months, culminating in four days of indescribable fear and this was in my adult life, not childhood. The experience left me with two physical symptoms. So far I have been focusing on physical healing modalities such as cranio sacral therapy, acupuncture, homeopathy, flower essences, reiki, EFT, Tapas Acupressure and recently bowen therapy. None of them have made the slightest impact. So working with the inner child c/o this book will be a new angle and I'm quite happy to work alone, prefer it this way as I'm an extreme introvert and it also has the benefit of not costing me anything.
I'm sorry to hear you haven't had any luck. Your trauma may be complex as it went on for so long. CPTSD is not just about childhood trauma, it's about prolonged trauma including if it just happened in adulthood. EMDR and Somatic Experiencing, and a few others I'm not as familiar with, are currently the most effective treatments for PTSD. I highly suggest finding an experienced trauma therapist who is familiar with current treatments and doesn't use the old ones like the few I mentioned before. If you haven't read it yet, The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk is an important work on trauma healing today. Also I've found a very powerful treatment for PTSD symptoms in Kundalini Yoga at sacredtherapies.com. I've gotten quite a bit of relief from it.

I've experienced complex trauma as it went on all my life until a couple of years ago, and out of desperation sought things that really work because for a long time I've been basically unable to do anything, and have experienced nonstop flashbacks/nightmares but I'm now starting to get better. That's why I like Bessel because he is only interested in treatments that work. Peter Levine's Somatic Experiencing is also showing to be very effective for PTSD. EMDR is also a miracle for many people, even though no one knows exactly why it works, but some have experienced relief after just a few treatments. There's also Neurofeedback. Bessel goes over these current effective treatments in his book. If you did not experience childhood trauma, there's quite a bit of hope for your recovery, because that makes it much more difficult to recover. I hope this helps and that you find some relief soon.
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Old 21-01-2018, 09:11 AM
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I'm sorry to hear you haven't had any luck. Your trauma may be complex as it went on for so long. CPTSD is not just about childhood trauma, it's about prolonged trauma including if it just happened in adulthood. EMDR and Somatic Experiencing, and a few others I'm not as familiar with, are currently the most effective treatments for PTSD. I highly suggest finding an experienced trauma therapist who is familiar with current treatments and doesn't use the old ones like the few I mentioned before. If you haven't read it yet, The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk is an important work on trauma healing today. Also I've found a very powerful treatment for PTSD symptoms in Kundalini Yoga at sacredtherapies.com. I've gotten quite a bit of relief from it.

I've experienced complex trauma as it went on all my life until a couple of years ago, and out of desperation sought things that really work because for a long time I've been basically unable to do anything, and have experienced nonstop flashbacks/nightmares but I'm now starting to get better. That's why I like Bessel because he is only interested in treatments that work. Peter Levine's Somatic Experiencing is also showing to be very effective for PTSD. EMDR is also a miracle for many people, even though no one knows exactly why it works, but some have experienced relief after just a few treatments. There's also Neurofeedback. Bessel goes over these current effective treatments in his book. If you did not experience childhood trauma, there's quite a bit of hope for your recovery, because that makes it much more difficult to recover. I hope this helps and that you find some relief soon.


Thank you, Seawolf. You know, just someone acknowledging I haven’t had luck on my side, so far, is validation and helpful. Yes, I do think I have complex PTSD (I was also told this by a medium). The thing is I don’t have some of the usual symptoms; I don’t get flashbacks and I don’t get nightmares. What I did get was extreme anger when I thought about it (there’s a nice hole in my bedroom which I’ve still to repair). What helped to lower that anger was EFT, mind you it took years.

I have heard of both EMDR and SE. EMDR is similar to EFT and the gamut procedure. Unfortunately, I live in a rural location and I don’t have any SE practitioners in my area. The book you mentioned, ‘the body keeps the score’ is actually what led me to find the Completion Process because in the reviews for the former book, someone said that although it describes the various approaches to PTSD, it doesn’t tell you how to do this for yourself and someone said The Completion Process does that, so that’s why I ordered it.

Also, I remember researching the vagal theory about a year ago and that the sympathetic and para sympathetic systems need re-balancing which led me to Bowen therapy. I had about five sessions and I’m still, I believe, processing this.

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Old 21-01-2018, 03:01 PM
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Thank you, Seawolf. You know, just someone acknowledging I haven’t had luck on my side, so far, is validation and helpful. Yes, I do think I have complex PTSD (I was also told this by a medium). The thing is I don’t have some of the usual symptoms; I don’t get flashbacks and I don’t get nightmares. What I did get was extreme anger when I thought about it (there’s a nice hole in my bedroom which I’ve still to repair). What helped to lower that anger was EFT, mind you it took years.

I have heard of both EMDR and SE. EMDR is similar to EFT and the gamut procedure. Unfortunately, I live in a rural location and I don’t have any SE practitioners in my area. The book you mentioned, ‘the body keeps the score’ is actually what led me to find the Completion Process because in the reviews for the former book, someone said that although it describes the various approaches to PTSD, it doesn’t tell you how to do this for yourself and someone said The Completion Process does that, so that’s why I ordered it.

Also, I remember researching the vagal theory about a year ago and that the sympathetic and para sympathetic systems need re-balancing which led me to Bowen therapy. I had about five sessions and I’m still, I believe, processing this.

Patrycia
That's a tough thing to not have many trauma therapists in your area. You might try a book called Self-Therapy that does the IFS therapy mentioned in Body Keeps Score and you can do it alone, though it might help to have some support with it even if it's through Skype or something.

CPTSD flashbacks are not necessarily the typical kind you'd think of like a soldier having, but they're called Emotional flashbacks and might be hard to recognize at first. Pete Walker's 'CPTSD: From Surviving to Thriving' is another important book and has helped alot of people. For support you can also go to https://www.reddit.com/r/cptsd lots of good people there at various stages of recovery.

We do need lots of validation, I thinks really important for us. That's tough to have tried so much and still suffer. Congratulations on not giving up and keeping going. I have a long way to go myself and also might try Holotropic Breathwork, it does deep processing and is getting more popular so might not be as hard to find a qualified practitioner. I'm interested in checking out those things you mentioned as well. I'm always open to new stuff that can help.
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That's a tough thing to not have many trauma therapists in your area. You might try a book called Self-Therapy that does the IFS therapy mentioned in Body Keeps Score and you can do it alone, though it might help to have some support with it even if it's through Skype or something.

CPTSD flashbacks are not necessarily the typical kind you'd think of like a soldier having, but they're called Emotional flashbacks and might be hard to recognize at first. Pete Walker's 'CPTSD: From Surviving to Thriving' is another important book and has helped alot of people. For support you can also go to https://www.reddit.com/r/cptsd lots of good people there at various stages of recovery.

We do need lots of validation, I thinks really important for us. That's tough to have tried so much and still suffer. Congratulations on not giving up and keeping going. I have a long way to go myself and also might try Holotropic Breathwork, it does deep processing and is getting more popular so might not be as hard to find a qualified practitioner. I'm interested in checking out those things you mentioned as well. I'm always open to new stuff that can help.
Thanks for talking about emotional flashbacks. I've had them my whole life but I've never seen them mentioned anywhere before. I've also tried many modalities to sort out my emotional distress. I'll try to talk about what worked for me.

The book Body Keeps the Score was also a big help for me to realize that I was dealing with PTSD. Then interesting thing I realized recently is that the content of the emotional flashbacks may not be directly related to the original cause. But how it would express is that I would recall some minor error in judgement or awkward moment I had with another person where I felt shame and it would consume me. Then it would cascade from another to another. Just hearing a song on the radio or seeing a sign on the road would trigger the first one and then once it started it would go off and on for hours.

I still get the emotional flashbacks but I only get a couple an hour now and they dissapate relatively quickly. Which for me is a lot of progress. Currently doing a combination of EMDR and Neurofeedback. The EMDR helps to raise and clear issues and the Neuro reprograms the brain to settle into more peaceful states in general. I also notice times when I can be suprisingly clear and decisive and I know that the Neuro is helping with that.

It is very hard to work on these things alone Patrycia-Rose so I'll try to focus on what I know of that can be done by yourself. I've never tried the completion process though so sorry I cannot speak to that.

For EMDR I can tell when an issue can be addressed with it when I am having a stress response and I notice my eyes "lock" into a specific location. I would do EMDR on myself just by imagining a slow back and forth motion in front of me and following it. It was almost like my higher self was guiding it.

Also I got a device called a tapper that works like EMDR, it is called bi-lateral stimulation. You hold a device in each hand that vibrates like a cell phone. It alternates back and forth between the hands. It is good to create a safe space to calm down when you are in a bad space. My therapist has me use them during the sessions which is how I found out about them. When I use them on my own I just lie down and relax and it helps me to calm down.

For EFT I find that in order to get a result I need to tap 2 to 4 times longer beyond the point where I think I am done. I've used Tapas as well. I use that a lot. Much more gentle than EFT. I just say "All of these feelings" and let the energy flow and take care of things. My wife got me into the EFT and Tapas and all kinds of other therapies. We've tried most everything under the sun.

The other thing that is very important after you tap is to use some integration statement when you are finished. The one I use is "All of these changes integrate easily, I am safe". This is necessary because after you shift a lot it can be unsettling and result in a kind of backlash unless you consciously integrate the changes. And if you get sucked into that it can be discourgaging and make you think that you are not making progress even when you are actually making huge progress.

Sound recordings can help a lot too. I've used both binaural and monaural stimulation recordings from various sources. I really love the Kelly Howell recordings. Though those would only take me so far and at some point I really needed some one-one-one therapy with EMDR and the Neuro to get things together.

For physical issues I use Tong Ren therapy. It is a form of non-physical energy work based on acupuncture.

Hope you find some of this information helpful. I've been quiet on this forum because I never know what to say but this topic hits home for me. Be well.
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Thank you, Seawolf. You know, just someone acknowledging I haven’t had luck on my side, so far, is validation and helpful. Yes, I do think I have complex PTSD (I was also told this by a medium). The thing is I don’t have some of the usual symptoms; I don’t get flashbacks and I don’t get nightmares. What I did get was extreme anger when I thought about it (there’s a nice hole in my bedroom which I’ve still to repair). What helped to lower that anger was EFT, mind you it took years.

I have heard of both EMDR and SE. EMDR is similar to EFT and the gamut procedure. Unfortunately, I live in a rural location and I don’t have any SE practitioners in my area. The book you mentioned, ‘the body keeps the score’ is actually what led me to find the Completion Process because in the reviews for the former book, someone said that although it describes the various approaches to PTSD, it doesn’t tell you how to do this for yourself and someone said The Completion Process does that, so that’s why I ordered it.

Also, I remember researching the vagal theory about a year ago and that the sympathetic and para sympathetic systems need re-balancing which led me to Bowen therapy. I had about five sessions and I’m still, I believe, processing this.

Patrycia

Hi Patrycia,

Just want to offer you some suggestions. I am using Rosen Method, which helps me to read cellular memory. Essentially, it's to guide me to use my own consciousness to process/heal the unconscious part of me.

I do most of the healing at home. But it's nice to go to the sessions too, so that I can ask questions and get guidance.

I have a physical trauma (the therapist calls it a shock trauma) on top of my developmental trauma. I didn't have the awareness that I have them until last year, after I started Rosen Method. I started my healing journey around 2012, had tried many modalities, and published a novel about my journey. So far, I find that the most powerful medicine is my own consciousness.

The sympathetic bias/imbalance you mentioned can also be healed with Rosen Method, which I do at home so perhaps that would be a more convenient option for you.

Wanchain
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I haven't read the books of the author mentioned in the original post but i've heard many people giving warning about this author. It's a theme which has been often discussed recently. From what i heard, and the all information on the web, one should use discernment and be cautious.
What i hear many times from folks who say they trust their intuition, is the gut feeling of danger when looking at her video. Unfortunately the new age field isn't free from deceivers yet.
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