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Old 18-02-2018, 01:40 AM
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About the importance of a real Teacher on the spiritual path

Let's talk about the importance of the Teacher, Guru.
First, without the Holy Guru you can not fully awaken the Kundalini. This will either take a long time, or an incorrect awakening may occur, leading to damage to the body or, in extreme cases, disability. Secondly, the awakened energy of the Kundalini reveals the chakras, but when the chakra opens, the energy of other dimensions begins to affect us. And if you do not have faith or are too contaminated by the subconscious, you can experience the influence of the low beings of the Astral World. Then you will get a lot of unpleasant experience. You will hear terrible sounds or threatening voices, or low creatures can deceive you by suggesting that you have reached Liberation or become Napoleon, Jesus Christ, Buddha or Supreme God. A dirty subconscious can lead to a split personality - you forget, which from consciousness refers to the physical body. This experience can begin already at the level of Swadhisthana - or Manipur-chakra, and then only the guru will be able to save you and raise you. Thirdly, without a guru, it is often impossible to call Tsandali. Fourthly, without a guru, one can not enter Samadhi. And, finally, only a true guru can answer any questions of the disciple, because he has already passed on this Path.
This path is simple to surprise, but few can pass through it. People do not want to cast off their chains. There are only a few, and let not the departed look back, because for his labors he will be rewarded in full.
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Old 18-02-2018, 05:44 AM
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Let's talk about the importance of the Teacher, Guru.
First, without the Holy Guru you can not fully awaken the Kundalini. This will either take a long time, or an incorrect awakening may occur, leading to damage to the body or, in extreme cases, disability. Secondly, the awakened energy of the Kundalini reveals the chakras, but when the chakra opens, the energy of other dimensions begins to affect us. And if you do not have faith or are too contaminated by the subconscious, you can experience the influence of the low beings of the Astral World. Then you will get a lot of unpleasant experience. You will hear terrible sounds or threatening voices, or low creatures can deceive you by suggesting that you have reached Liberation or become Napoleon, Jesus Christ, Buddha or Supreme God. A dirty subconscious can lead to a split personality - you forget, which from consciousness refers to the physical body. This experience can begin already at the level of Swadhisthana - or Manipur-chakra, and then only the guru will be able to save you and raise you. Thirdly, without a guru, it is often impossible to call Tsandali. Fourthly, without a guru, one can not enter Samadhi. And, finally, only a true guru can answer any questions of the disciple, because he has already passed on this Path.
This path is simple to surprise, but few can pass through it. People do not want to cast off their chains. There are only a few, and let not the departed look back, because for his labors he will be rewarded in full.





QUOTE=Nitiananda]Let's talk about the importance of the Teacher, Guru.

Can we talk about how you can decide for all that it's important that they have a guru?
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Old 18-02-2018, 11:34 AM
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Your post is said sooner from the point of view of an ordinary person, but not a practitioner. Because if you practice for a while you begin to notice that all your achievements and successes in spiritual practice (soothing of consciousness, manifestation of super-abilities, mystical life at the moment can be destroyed by communication and life in society. This is the reason that for some years they have practiced and practiced something, and after 10 years of practice they begin to feel that they are all at the door for which they can not glance. In order to promote their practice, (transfer of energy) from the real master and service to him. At the expense of these things, the meditative experience of the master is transferred. And the practitioner suddenly sharply begins to accelerate the practice, the mystical experience, the maturity of the soul, the candle ability. And it gives an impression for 3-5 years of practice with the present master feeling that a person has 20 years of experience as a practitioner.
This is similar to how to sit in a supersonic aircraft. In 5 hours of flight you can fly several thousand kilometers. How much time will the person walking (practice without a master)? A year or two, or a lifetime?
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Old 18-02-2018, 02:14 PM
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Your post is said sooner from the point of view of an ordinary person, but not a practitioner. Because if you practice for a while you begin to notice that all your achievements and successes in spiritual practice (soothing of consciousness, manifestation of super-abilities, mystical life at the moment can be destroyed by communication and life in society. This is the reason that for some years they have practiced and practiced something, and after 10 years of practice they begin to feel that they are all at the door for which they can not glance. In order to promote their practice, (transfer of energy) from the real master and service to him. At the expense of these things, the meditative experience of the master is transferred. And the practitioner suddenly sharply begins to accelerate the practice, the mystical experience, the maturity of the soul, the candle ability. And it gives an impression for 3-5 years of practice with the present master feeling that a person has 20 years of experience as a practitioner.
This is similar to how to sit in a supersonic aircraft. In 5 hours of flight you can fly several thousand kilometers. How much time will the person walking (practice without a master)? A year or two, or a lifetime?




I think I would prefer to be without a guru if they 🤔 as you do,
Buddha spent most of his life in ' Society ' doing very well from what I understand as an ordinary ' Human being ' .




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In the process of correct spiritual practice of yoga and Buddhism, practitioners acquire a variety of supernatural forces. The main ones are:
1. The supernormal divine legs-the ability to levitate and go where they want to go.
2. The supernatural ability of the divine hearing-to hear the voices of people at a great distance and the voices of the gods.
3. Supernatural reading of other people's thoughts is the ability to read the consciousness of the interlocutor, and at the higher levels of this ability to see its essence (thoughts) in the form of a color image.
4. The supernatural ability to remember one's own and others' past lives.
5. Supernatural ability to know your own and others' future lives.
6. Supernatural ability to cover leaks.

I have a proposal let's spread useful information about the supernatural forces or how they manifested themselves. Their interesting experiences of gaining super-strength. Thank you for your understanding.

I think I can survive without these qualities, the last one regarding ' leaks' I'll leave that to a Plumber
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Old 18-02-2018, 03:08 PM
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I created these topics to attract people interested in it. My Guru and his closest disciples showed these abilities to a great extent. And Teacher himself was simply a scanner, from which it was impossible to hide anything. You could be with him if only your thoughts and the work of consciousness is crystal clear. Gradually, in my practice, they gradually manifested themselves. But it's very hard, because it's just impossible to be among ordinary people and go to work .. YOU are starting to know everything about everyone, read their minds and unconsciousness.
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Old 18-02-2018, 03:14 PM
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The Buddha is called awakened to Truth. Tathagata. It means reaching the final stage of liberation one without teachers and initiations. And such a level saints are very rare. They appear through very large time intervals. My teacher was one of them .. You do not understand how great it is to practice near with such a teacher. And what is the destruction of worldly desires. When you are released .. you are at your soul very easily. The world's desires are heavy like weights and bring suffering. But this can only be understood by destroying them.
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Old 18-02-2018, 04:14 PM
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The Buddha is called awakened to Truth. Tathagata. It means reaching the final stage of liberation one without teachers and initiations. And such a level saints are very rare. They appear through very large time intervals. My teacher was one of them .. You do not understand how great it is to practice near with such a teacher. And what is the destruction of worldly desires. When you are released .. you are at your soul very easily. The world's desires are heavy like weights and bring suffering. But this can only be understood by destroying them.






" The world's desires are heavy like weights and bring suffering. But this can only be understood by destroying them.[/quote] "



It is attachment to desires that cause the problem, not desires.


Another problem pointed out by Buddha which is very pertinent, is that denying desire (or depriving oneself) is like denying life itself. A person, he said, has to rise above attachments and for that, he need not deprive himself. The problem arises when he does not know where to put an end to his desires. And when he yields into his desires, he becomes a slave to them.
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Old 19-02-2018, 06:20 AM
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Let's talk about the importance of the Teacher, Guru.
First, without the Holy Guru you can not fully awaken the Kundalini. This will either take a long time, or an incorrect awakening may occur, leading to damage to the body or, in extreme cases, disability. Secondly, the awakened energy of the Kundalini reveals the chakras, but when the chakra opens, the energy of other dimensions begins to affect us. And if you do not have faith or are too contaminated by the subconscious, you can experience the influence of the low beings of the Astral World. Then you will get a lot of unpleasant experience. You will hear terrible sounds or threatening voices, or low creatures can deceive you by suggesting that you have reached Liberation or become Napoleon, Jesus Christ, Buddha or Supreme God. A dirty subconscious can lead to a split personality - you forget, which from consciousness refers to the physical body. This experience can begin already at the level of Swadhisthana - or Manipur-chakra, and then only the guru will be able to save you and raise you. Thirdly, without a guru, it is often impossible to call Tsandali. Fourthly, without a guru, one can not enter Samadhi. And, finally, only a true guru can answer any questions of the disciple, because he has already passed on this Path.
This path is simple to surprise, but few can pass through it. People do not want to cast off their chains. There are only a few, and let not the departed look back, because for his labors he will be rewarded in full.



Thanks for sharing your thoughts, and also for the post about the Commandments.

If you don't mind my asking, who is or was your guru, and does he have any teachings available online?

Thanks!
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Old 19-02-2018, 06:53 AM
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" The world's desires are heavy like weights and bring suffering. But this can only be understood by destroying them.
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It is attachment to desires that cause the problem, not desires.


Another problem pointed out by Buddha which is very pertinent, is that denying desire (or depriving oneself) is like denying life itself. A person, he said, has to rise above attachments and for that, he need not deprive himself. The problem arises when he does not know where to put an end to his desires. And when he yields into his desires, he becomes a slave to them.[/quote]

The more extended answer I wrote in the post:
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...d.php?t=120525

My teacher is the famous master Samadhi Pilot Baba.
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Old 22-02-2018, 08:49 PM
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Three types of Guru

For each of the three ways of practice, there is a type of guru. First of all, Hinayana's guru denies worldly life, concentrates only on practice and can pass on her experience to others. Accordingly, his disciples follow his teaching, relying on his experience, and advance in practice, constantly receiving from the guru information about the level of their achievements. Guru Hinayana is very clean, because he lives away from this world of desires and, in principle, does not think about the happiness and freedom of others. Basically, he is only interested in his spiritual perfection.
The second type is the Mahayana Guru. A guru of this type is familiar both with worldly life and with denial of it, but, in addition, he understands the essence of many other spiritual teachings. Guru Mahayana has greater virtue, he is spiritually richer, because he constantly practices the Four Dimensionalities, and immerses you in a calm and peaceful environment. He can answer any question. He is generally much more interesting as a person. But he does not understand the essence of the worldly desires of other people and realizes karma only when it manifests.
Guru Tantra, having looked at the disciple, sees what kind of worldly desires possess his follower, and he leads him to Liberation, allowing the student to satisfy desires, to satiate himself and abandon them. Or such a guru can make the object of meditation a joy associated with worldly desires. When a disciple can experience joy in the Astral world or during meditation, his ecstasy of joy will be much more magnificent than during sexual intercourse. After such experience, people usually forget about the sensual pleasures of the World of Men and begin to intensively engage in spiritual practice.
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