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Old 27-08-2018, 08:22 AM
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Perhaps our galactic brothers represent 'the father' symbol which orients our moral compass as authoritative behavioural control to the ends of utopia. A way of trying to live up to imagined ideal standards of acceptability, and hence we imagine if the aliens 'approve'. Our underlying thirst for being love-worthy projected through 'the father's approval'. The narratives of critical mass were 'imaginary' in the sense that there is an 'all good' without contrast of 'good and bad'. Symbolic representations of dark and light encircled represent 'the real' through balanced interdefinition, without being the real itself - the real being a completely unimaginable and undefinable 'thing in itself'.

Critical mass would mean a certain number of people who choose to step out of the low frequency paradigm. Everyone has free will and is free but there have been workings to try to distort free will.
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Everyone has free will and is free but there have been workings to try to distort free will.
I haven't spent much time thinking about this, but I'm curious after your comment: how can a "working" distort my free will?

I could see drugs overriding my will - or blending with it - but it would have been my choice to take them. Overwhelming force or rape seem to be the only things that would go against free will (of the victim) and even then many say these things are pre-planned -- not sure I believe that one though.

This thread seems benign at worst, and favorable at best...

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Old 04-09-2018, 07:59 PM
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I haven't spent much time thinking about this, but I'm curious after your comment: how can a "working" distort my free will?




It's quite simple and happens very often here imo. Lies, manipulation, physical or psychological control, gaslighting, fearmongering, mindcontrol, authority, giving partial/hiding information to influence the decision of another, you name it. It can vary from obvious to very subtle.


like :

You must work 50 hours a week at a job you hate, only to survive
I don't care about you, but pretend to love you and ask you in marriage because you have a lot of money
"If you don't do like everyone else, they will mock you"
"If you don't believe in the church you will go to hell"
Making you believe you need to buy this (useless in thruth) things in order to be happy or heathy...
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Old 05-09-2018, 01:29 PM
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It's quite simple and happens very often here imo. Lies, manipulation, physical or psychological control, gaslighting, fearmongering, mindcontrol, authority, giving partial/hiding information to influence the decision of another, you name it. It can vary from obvious to very subtle.


like :

You must work 50 hours a week at a job you hate, only to survive
I don't care about you, but pretend to love you and ask you in marriage because you have a lot of money
"If you don't do like everyone else, they will mock you"
"If you don't believe in the church you will go to hell"
Making you believe you need to buy this (useless in thruth) things in order to be happy or heathy...

I understand your perspective, although I disagree with that subverting my free will. I can choose to believe or disbelieve all of those things you mention. Is it cultural manipulation, yes, absolutely, but we can all choose to walk away from those ideas with which we identify and disagree with... to me, that is free will. Not looking to start a discussion or argument per se, just wanted to hear your perspective. Thank you for sharing.
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