Does absolute truth exist?

[Deigon Mifftcus]

Originally Posted by Altair

I think there is a highly relativist 'reality' outside of the physical reality, where thoughts can make 'reality' quite literally. A world of illusion. Our physical reality is like that but up to a point, as we do have certainties in this world. But beyond Illusion, I believe that there is an absolute truth, from a 'soul' perspective.

This sounds similar to my own experience. What has been your personal experiences with this world of illusion and thoughts literally creating reality?

[LiberatedLotus]

A very simplified yet concrete example:

You walk off a Skyscraper & what happens...

At the moment of impact the human being
ceases to breathe. Period.

A whole myraid of infinite possibilities can
stem from this scenario yet the impact remains
the same. They cease to breathe.

What is a body, heart/mind, spirit & soul?
What is birth & what is life?
At what moment is a being conceived?
At what moment does one exist?
Cease to exist?
What departs & what remains?
What is departure? What are remains?
What is self? What is consciousness?
Where does it end & where does it start?

Does the being reside in the hearts
& minds of the living?
Do the physical remains incarnate into
the landscape we see before us?
Do they enter into realms that are beyond our
fields of visions or comprehension?
What exactly is "this" that we speak of?
What constitutes life? What constitutes death.

It is infinite.

The cessation of breath remains.

[r6r6]

LiberatedLotus--A whole myraid of infinite possibilities can
stem from this scenario...

A finite set as were limited to a finite set of cosmic laws/principles.

What is a body, heart/mind, spirit & soul?

Biological = soul ergo synonyms ex biological/soul

Spirit has four primary kinds;

1} spirit-1 is spirit-of-intent ergo metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts,
------------line of demarcation-------------

2} spirit-2 our observed { quantised } reality aka Observed Time/Frequency ^v^v sine-wave patterns associated with fermionmic matter and bosonic forces,

3} spirit-3, positive shaped ( ) geodesics ( ) of gravity ( ),

4) spirit-4, negative shaped )( geodesics )( of dark energy )(.

What is birth & what is life?

With humans it is the process of transformation between being fetus --organism of the mother--- and being and individual with the life giving blood stream of mother being severed and taking in their first IN-spiration of oxygen.

Life = biological/soul

At what moment is a being conceived?

When head of sperm releases its chromsomes to be combined with those of the egg. This is farily well documented with vidieos.

At what moment does one exist?
Cease to exist?

Think of it going to sleep, there are degrees of being asleep and wakefulness.

We rarely know the the exact time brain goes into another stage of brain wave activity. But those with instrumentation attached to or viewing brain can know.

What departs & what remains?
What is departure? What are remains?

The synergetic processes stop.

What is self? What is consciousness?

At a minimum consciousness is twoness and that is inherently a fourness;

1} observer,

2} observed,

3} line-of-relationship for observation ex gravity or EMRadiational charge,

4} background against within the above three exist.

Where does it end & where does it start?

Process of living stops with cells no longer recieving oxygen.

Does the being reside in the hearts
& minds of the living?

THe human being is an integral part of the four kinds of spirit I mentioned above.

Do the physical remains incarnate into
the landscape we see before us?

The synergetic whole disintegrates into quantum parts and some become integrated into bacteria.

Do they enter into realms that are beyond our
fields of visions or comprehension?

Yes, there exist fermionic matter and bosonic forces we cannot see with our naked eye but we can detect with instrumentation.

We have not yet quantised or quantified gravity ( ) or dark energy )( and maybe never will.

What exactly is "this" that we speak of?
What constitutes life? What constitutes death.

The ending of synergetic process that we call a human integrity.

It is infinite.

No. Occupied space Universe and the complementary set of metaphysical-1, cosmic laws/principles are finite.

The cessation of breath remains.

Yes, once a an animal stops breathing for more than so many minutes they rarely ever start breathing again.

[LiberatedLotus]

Thank You r6r6r, I really do appreciate
your analytical mind.

[naturewalker24]

There are spiritual truths which is all truths

[lemex]

Originally Posted by naturewalker24

There are spiritual truths which is all truths

The next question is should the we have the freedom to follow or not follow them and I don't mean here. We prance around this question, what are our freedom toward any we might object to once they are understood. What is true truths. We have a reference point, our time here.

[naturewalker24]

I some times wonder why i get so hungry in the apple bees curbside parking lot?

[r6r6]

r6r6r---A finite set as were limited to a finite set of cosmic laws/principles.

Metaphysical-1, cosmic laws/principles are absolute truths.

-----line of demarcation------------------
The sky is blue is a relative { + ^v^v - } truth.

Two primary kinds of truth.

[LillyBelle]

I mean, in what way are we talking? Spiritually? Apparently we create our own realities and apparently there's different dimensions where things are different than here. Are we talking about here and now? There are some things that are true. Such as, there's 12 months in a year, 365 days in a year. 2+2 always equals four. I'm currently typing this from a laptop. I'm in a nightgown. It is currently night time. You get the idea. It's complicated.

[r6r6]

LillyBelle--I mean, in what way are we talking?

Vocal, textual { written word }, numbers, music etc

Spiritually?

4 primary kinds are involved tho some more relevant than others

Apparently we create our own realities and apparently there's different dimensions where things are different than here. Are we talking about here and now?

I did not create Universe I live in. It has existed eternally.

There are some things that are true. Such as, there's 12 months in a year, 365 days in a year. 2+2 always equals four.

Only if everbody on Earth from all of human past used that method. Other planets have differrrent time scale of orbit around Sol.

I'm currently typing this from a laptop.

Marketed as laptop yet some of these have never been on anyones lap. They may only be used as a desktop.

I'm in a nightgown.

If worn by you or others of another culture during the day it becomes a day gown? Or evening wear, night clothes. Differrent language use differrent concepts for identifying apparrel.

It is currently night time. You get the idea. It's complicated.

It is always daytime of every planet in our solar system.

I agree that it is very complicated, even the most seeming simple scenarios, once we begin to consider all of the relevant and less relevant factors.