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Old 14-02-2017, 03:13 PM
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The Bible is a mystery wisdom manuscript. "Ate the consecrated bread" is occult-speak for ingesting a whole new wisdom and knowledge; making it of the body and not just the mind. Mind-knowledge is the old path, the Pisces Age path. The path of religion. It was once good enough to have a priest tell people what they needed to believe. No more. Now the individual must consume that knowledge and bring it into the body and the will. The individual has become the priest, and now partakes of knowledge that only priests once "ate."

The time of the priest, and the tenet, and intellectual understanding has come to an end.
It is now the time of experiential wisdom; knowledge derived from individual deed and action.

Baile,

This separation from the priests began, in earnest, with the reformation and the printing of the Bible. So this has been ongoing for the past 500 years. The possibility that eludes you is that experiential wisdom can, in many cases, simply confirm scripture. As for experiential wisdom, it is necessarily filtered to some extent by the ego. It, of course, can only convince yourself. A total reliance on the total truth of experiential wisdom can only result in a partial understanding of the truth because the experience of everyone, taken separately, cannot achieve a consensus. There can be no sharing of the truth if we are convinced that the only truth is that which we have experienced for ourselves. In other words, individual truth is essentially worthless. For example, under your standards, phenomena such as NDE's, miracles, etc. are without validity unless you have personally experienced them. This seemingly would also apply to the discoveries of science because they were achieved by others than yourself.
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Old 18-02-2017, 09:52 PM
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In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.


The Bible is a mystery wisdom manuscript. "Ate the consecrated bread" is occult-speak for ingesting a whole new wisdom and knowledge; making it of the body and not just the mind. Mind-knowledge is the old path, the Pisces Age path. The path of religion. It was once good enough to have a priest tell people what they needed to believe. No more. Now the individual must consume that knowledge and bring it into the body and the will. The individual has become the priest, and now partakes of knowledge that only priests once "ate."

The time of the priest, and the tenet, and intellectual understanding has come to an end.
It is now the time of experiential wisdom; knowledge derived from individual deed and action.
Baile,

This separation from the priests began, in earnest, with the reformation and the printing of the Bible. So this has been ongoing for the past 500 years. The possibility that eludes you is that experiential wisdom can, in many cases, simply confirm scripture. As for experiential wisdom, it is necessarily filtered to some extent by the ego. It, of course, can only convince yourself. A total reliance on the total truth of experiential wisdom can only result in a partial understanding of the truth because the experience of everyone, taken separately, cannot achieve a consensus. There can be no sharing of the truth if we are convinced that the only truth is that which we have experienced for ourselves. In other words, individual truth is essentially worthless. For example, under your standards, phenomena such as NDE's, miracles, etc. are without validity unless you have personally experienced them. This seemingly would also apply to the discoveries of science because they were achieved by others than yourself.

I heard a funny coincidence this week while attending the last Bible Group meeting before Lent. The vicar told us about an amusing news item. The Church of England had had a national vote concerning the status quo and whether things should change, or should things remain as they are. The clergy voted in favor of change, but the majority vote is always with the bishops. The head bishop of England voted that things should remain as they are, and regardless of how the other bishops felt they sided with the head bishop as a show of loyalty ... except for one bishop who voted YES. Naturally everyone was very interested to know who this rebel was, (the vicar's words, not mine), and it turned out to be our very own bishop of Coventry.
When asked why he opposed the head bishop he replied that he never intended any rebellion (again, the vicar's words, not mine), and it seems he had accidentally pushed the wrong button, voting Yes when he had meant to vote No! Important as this was he had to make the statement public and in the newspapers.

And on that note I might say that this thread has been very illuminating. Often I've wondered about my own thoughts on the Jesus rebellion thing and have now come to the conclusion that I just see things in an alternative light, and now understand that I'm simply not a Crucifixionist - and will leave it at that.

On a personal note, our Bible Group read up to Mark: Chapter 14, with the last two chapters held over to be resumed after Easter - without me. Not being a Crucifixionist it now seems apt that Jesus had laid a curse on the fig tree before entering Jerusalem. A curse that withered the tree; witnessed by all on their leaving of the city. Just like the man with the withered hand healed on the Sabbath, a demarcation line was drawn that speaks volumes.


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Old 02-03-2017, 09:26 PM
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Jesus on the cross is the Good News-

God's New Message to the world which has always been but we had forgotten it when civilization and empire rose for most of human history-

God is with us and within us during our suffering. God is saying on the Cross in the suffering of Jesus-
"Don't worry. The end is always Resurrection."

With Jesus it was a literal Resurrection where by the higher frequencies above allowed the spirit of Jesus to return to his crucified body and re-enter it and regenerate it by the power of the Christ Consciousness.
The Transfiguration was a foreboding of what Jesus would become-
and that is "The Christ", the "Light of the world" etc.

The physical body isn't important since when Jesus ascended to a very high level of spirituality with God on the Other Side, he relinquished it into pure energy. Our spirit self is more real than what we perceive on physical. But I believe the Good News is Resurrection and that God is always with us, in us, and as US, we just need to start seeing differently

The whole atonement is done on our part with God in us. It is at-one-ment. Jesus says "God is coming to you, to reconcile man to God" in the Gospels. God is always doing this we just finally took notice and realized it in the life of Jesus. You are not in charge of Love, you move in Love and things happen. You are not as autonomous as you believe. God in you is closer to you than you are to yourself. It took a person emptied of their whole self to tell the world this, die , and resurrect giving it validation and proof.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:45 AM
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Jesus on the cross is the Good News
Let he who is without sin strike the first nail - - The physical body isn't important!
I wish that were so Amilius777, and I could live out my days on a steady diet of crack cocaine and cheap booze.

Each to his own. I for one won't be gambling my eternal soul on the flawed interpretations of the Good News
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Old 20-03-2017, 09:50 PM
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Your Church will be lost priest. The dark pope rises.
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Old 21-03-2017, 11:27 AM
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Jesus appeared to be a rebel because he came to earth to change the status quo.
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Old 21-03-2017, 06:09 PM
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Jesus appeared to be a rebel because he came to earth to change the status quo.
... with limited success.
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Old 21-03-2017, 08:36 PM
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King Lea, god has a long term game plan and we as humans are in our infancy spiritually. Jesus did his job exactly.
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Old 21-03-2017, 09:38 PM
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Jesus did his job exactly.

Exactly my point, peteyzen.
Sadly, the world's greatest academics still continue to misread the Good News.

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King Lea, god has a long term game plan and we as humans are in our infancy spiritually.
Alas, "spiritual infancy" is a poor excuse.
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