Jesus warned ALL

John 15:20-21---that on account of his name( Jesus) ( those think they are standing for it) will do things against the true followers--WHY? Because they do not know the one who sent him= Father( John 5:30) = YHWH(Jehovah)-- The one Jesus teaches is THE ONLY TRUE GOD( John 17:3) he as well teaches there one must know Father and know Jesus to get eternal life.
Do you know YHWH(Jehovah) --Jesus God and Father--John 20:17, Rev 3:12--- Few do. I guess that is why Few will find entrance into Gods kingdom.

[Nowayout]

Unbelievable eh..

Originally Posted by Nowayout

Unbelievable eh..

It is sad. The blind guides are running around telling their flocks--you are saved--or born again--they dont even know God.

[innerlight]

Originally Posted by kjw47

It is sad. The blind guides are running around telling their flocks--you are saved--or born again--they dont even know God.

I guess that is why Few will find entrance into Gods kingdom.

Absolutely! You really hit the nail on the head with this one. This is so true. There are so many that will not find their entrance into God's kingdom... Because they will stand outside of the door thinking they will be punished, and judged, and cast into a fiery lake for all eternity.. Without realizing the truth of it all. That NONE of that will ever happen. For all and everyone are welcome back into the kingdom. Those who truly know GOD already know this truth. The rest, will learn it.. In time. They will see the truth of it all.

Originally Posted by innerlight

Absolutely! You really hit the nail on the head with this one. This is so true. There are so many that will not find their entrance into God's kingdom... Because they will stand outside of the door thinking they will be punished, and judged, and cast into a fiery lake for all eternity.. Without realizing the truth of it all. That NONE of that will ever happen. For all and everyone are welcome back into the kingdom. Those who truly know GOD already know this truth. The rest, will learn it.. In time. They will see the truth of it all.

Revelation clearly teaches unrepentent sinners to the lake of fire- the sheep and goats will be seperated during the tribulation. The lake of fire is symbolic for death everlasting. The true God set before all--LIFE or DEATH at Deuteronomy 30:19--both will be everlasting.

Originally Posted by innerlight

Absolutely! You really hit the nail on the head with this one. This is so true. There are so many that will not find their entrance into God's kingdom... Because they will stand outside of the door thinking they will be punished, and judged, and cast into a fiery lake for all eternity.. Without realizing the truth of it all. That NONE of that will ever happen. For all and everyone are welcome back into the kingdom. Those who truly know GOD already know this truth. The rest, will learn it.. In time. They will see the truth of it all.

The lake of fire = the second death. There is no life in death. God set before all-- Life or Death( Deut 30:19) both will be everlasting.

[sky]

Originally Posted by kjw47

The lake of fire = the second death. There is no life in death. God set before all-- Life or Death( Deut 30:19) both will be everlasting.

'There is no life in death'
You can't have one without the other can you? Without life no death, without death no life....

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by kjw47

It is sad. The blind guides are running around telling their flocks--you are saved--or born again--they dont even know God.

Well of course, the J.W.'s are the only true flock, who's New World translation authors cannot be traced.

I've asked also, K.J., what makes the J.W.'s any different from any other religion which states they must follow their rules and stipulations in order to go to heaven.

Meanwhile in actuality, the source of the Joy in the Lord involves the understanding of Salvation!
That after the Almighty gave the Law through Moses, He went about establishing the atoning practices for sin.
Which established foundation, Jesus is the long prophesied Capstone, of. The Savior.

Here is the wellspring of Joy... which Jesus spoke about, involving the extension of God's Mercy, Grace, and Love!

The accepted indications of a cult are this...
That 1.
They say that Jesus is not the Almighty Himself, incarnate into the world. The Deity of Christ.
2.
They deny that Salvation comes, "by Grace, through Faith", in the shed blood of the atoning Lamb of God.
"Not of yourself, for it is a GIFT of God. Not of works, so that none may boast."
St. Paul
Ephesians 2:9

Also, as told to us way back in Leviticus 17!
Which the Jews of Jesus day missed.

"The Life of the creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the alter to make atonement for your soul.
For it is the blood which makes atonement for the soul.
Also depicted in Leviticus 16, regarding the illustration of, "The Scapegoat".

Jesus, as St. John stated, shed His blood for the sin of the world.
The reason for which escapes the J.W.'s.
Involving original, and inherent sin, leading to all others.
Paul also clearly dilineated the purpose of the law in the book of Romans, saying NO ONE can be justified by it! As it points out our sin, and failure to keep it.

Which understanding also escaped the Jews of Jesus day, just as it seems to the J.W.'s, today.

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Well of course, the J.W.'s are the only true flock, who's New World translation authors cannot be traced.

I've asked also, K.J., what makes the J.W.'s any different from any other religion which states they must follow their rules and stipulations in order to go to heaven.

Meanwhile in actuality, the source of the Joy in the Lord involves the understanding of Salvation!
That after the Almighty gave the Law through Moses, He went about establishing the atoning practices for sin.
Which established foundation, Jesus is the long prophesied Capstone, of. The Savior.

Here is the wellspring of Joy... which Jesus spoke about, involving the extension of God's Mercy, Grace, and Love!

The accepted indications of a cult are this...
That 1.
They say that Jesus is not the Almighty Himself, incarnate into the world. The Deity of Christ.
2.
They deny that Salvation comes, "by Grace, through Faith", in the shed blood of the atoning Lamb of God.
"Not of yourself, for it is a GIFT of God. Not of works, so that none may boast."
St. Paul
Ephesians 2:9

Also, as told to us way back in Leviticus 17!
Which the Jews of Jesus day missed.

"The Life of the creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the alter to make atonement for your soul.
For it is the blood which makes atonement for the soul.
Also depicted in Leviticus 16, regarding the illustration of, "The Scapegoat".

Jesus, as St. John stated, shed His blood for the sin of the world.
The reason for which escapes the J.W.'s.
Involving original, and inherent sin, leading to all others.
Paul also clearly dilineated the purpose of the law in the book of Romans, saying NO ONE can be justified by it! As it points out our sin, and failure to keep it.

Which understanding also escaped the Jews of Jesus day, just as it seems to the J.W.'s, today.

The bible teaches--144,000 are promised heaven-Rev 14:3--The great multitude will inherit the earth. Matt 5:5
Yes its a gift no matter who gets it. But certain practiced sins one will not enter Gods kingdom it says.-1Corinthians 6:9-11--Galations 5:19-21 added to false god worship and pagan practices off the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21) = 99% on earth.

[sky]

Originally Posted by kjw47

The bible teaches--144,000 are promised heaven-Rev 14:3--The great multitude will inherit the earth. Matt 5:5
Yes its a gift no matter who gets it. But certain practiced sins one will not enter Gods kingdom it says.-1Corinthians 6:9-11--Galations 5:19-21 added to false god worship and pagan practices off the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21) = 99% on earth.

' The bible teaches--144,000 are promised heaven '

These prediction have always puzzled me since childhood, can you explain please...
who will be counting the lucky ones?

I prefer the ' Kingdom of heaven is within ' no need for calculating then.