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Old 31-05-2015, 12:54 PM
Serrao Serrao is offline
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Hi Serrao, knowing ones purpose is the easy part, achieving it is the hard part. I know my purpose is to walk the straight path, that is to act virtuously. Actually walking the straight path is harder. I do know, though, that the farther I walk along the straight path the easier it becomes. Does this make sense?
Yes, it makes sense.
But do, according to your religion, all souls have this same main-purpose? To walk the straight path?
Or can, according to your religion, my main-purpose differ from yours?

I also have a question about the God from your religion.
Is your God also a judging and punishing God when one doesn't walk the straight path?
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Old 31-05-2015, 01:19 PM
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What the world needs now is love, sweet love
It's the only thing that there's just too little of
What the world needs now is love, sweet love
No not just for some but for everyone

Lord we don't need another religion...
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Old 31-05-2015, 08:36 PM
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How can you just 'create' a religion??
I suppose you need a sage in whom you spot an unique selling proposition in which you can capitalise to govern. You make promises based on support for the sage, obtain followers some of whom will start asking questions. As long as they can be answered, fine. When they can't you have to introduce controls to keep the doubters in line and defend your position. (The Scientologists appear to have been quite successful at this.) It's an inevitability of religion that god has to be externalised - hard to avoid when the imagery has to be shared in common.

Been the same throughout the ages.

Much depends on definition. "Virtuous" is a cultural orientation. To some religions nipping around killing non-believers is not only virtuous but imperative. Other religions peddle the opposite. It must have given the Nicene Council a right headache reconciling Jesus' pacifist teachings with Roman warmongering.

Everyone should write their own Holy Book.

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Old 31-05-2015, 09:20 PM
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I suppose you need a sage in whom you spot an unique selling proposition in which you can capitalise to govern. You make promises based on support for the sage, obtain followers some of whom will start asking questions. As long as they can be answered, fine. When they can't you have to introduce controls to keep them in line and defend your position. (The Scientologists appear to have been quite successful at this.) It's an inevitability of religion that god has to be externalised - hard to avoid when the imagery has to be shared in common.

Been the same throughout the ages.

Much depends on definition. "Virtuous" is a cultural orientation. To some religions nipping around killing non-believers is not only virtuous but imperative. Other religions peddle the opposite. It must have given the Nicene Council a right headache reconciling Jesus' pacifist teachings with Roman warmongering.

Everyone should write their own Holy Book.

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Mainstream science has also been good at creating its own religion as well. We have people looking up to these scientist like Stephen Hawking "As if he is some sort of enlightened being" who for all of his intellectual ability is probably challenged outside of that.

Most people view mainstream science and the TV as god. The very society and we live in today is a religion Lorelyen without a book. This a deep game on so many levels, its not as simple as pointing the finger at religions anymore.

A world where there is a religion professing that people must do this and that, is a world where billions are kept in ignorance with limited knowledge. A religion asks somebody to live their life by its rules, and then hopefully you then get accepted into whatever.

I believe its not religion what we have to create again, we just have to remember what true human nature is that's all. There is only really one universal law for me, and that's Karma.
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Old 01-06-2015, 04:30 AM
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There is only really one universal law for me, and that's Karma.
Do you mean that your straight path is based on:
That all good things come to those who make them happen.?
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Old 01-06-2015, 09:02 AM
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How can you just 'create' a religion??



No man is born to any religion; he has a religion in his own soul. - Swami Vivekananda


Perhaps Chr1stian is intuitively articulating the religion within his own soul, and sharing it with others.

Even if none adheres to it, he would walk in his own path and be happy and content with it.
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If you do right, irrespective of what the other does, it will slow down the (turbulent) mind. ~ Rajini Menon
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:35 AM
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Yes, it makes sense.
But do, according to your religion, all souls have this same main-purpose? To walk the straight path?
Or can, according to your religion, my main-purpose differ from yours?

I also have a question about the God from your religion.
Is your God also a judging and punishing God when one doesn't walk the straight path?

Yes, all souls have the same purpose to act virtuously and justly towards others and thus walk the straight path. An individual can refuse to do this, but they will suffer as those they treat unjustly will suffer.
In answer to your second question, God has no need to judge or punish us. We judge and punish ourselves. We are bound by our conscience, the voice of our soul.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:40 AM
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Yes, all souls have the same purpose to act virtuously and justly towards others and thus walk the straight path. An individual can refuse to do this, but they will suffer as those they treat unjustly will suffer.
In answer to your second question, God has no need to judge or punish us. We judge and punish ourselves. We are bound by our conscience, the voice of our soul.


Oh dear, i'm in big trouble because I don't believe in a soul.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:45 AM
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Mybe I have misunderstood. If you yourself hasn't followed any Religion or delved into others beliefs then your Straight Path is new to you, but if you look into Christianity, Buddhism, Hidduism, Jaenism etc: they all teach the same virtuous principles.

This is my path and it is straight, so follow it. Do not follow other ways or you will become cut off from his way.
Allah.

Proverbs 3:6.

There are lots of 'Straight Path ' verses mentioned in all Religions, look around and you can see for yourself. As I said before, the wording is different but the message is the same. To start a New Religion you will have to find something unique

I have delved into other beliefs. True the straight path is referred to by many religions, but as these religions are different so is the one I discuss in this thread; even though like them it describes the straight path. It has unique aspects as they do.
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Old 01-06-2015, 10:50 AM
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I have delved into other beliefs. True the straight path is referred to by many religions, but as these religions are different so is the one I discuss in this thread; even though like them it describes the straight path. It has unique aspects as they do.

I would really like to understand what ' unique aspects ' you mean please because up to now I haven't seen any
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