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12-10-2015, 01:35 PM
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I agree. There are many countries in the world where marriages are arranged by families, in some, they are even bartered.
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Do we realise how lucky we are to be able to make our own choices in who we marry/cohabit with and at what age we decide to leave the nest and move on. Free will is priceless. |
12-10-2015, 04:18 PM
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I'm reminded of the Essene scripture which says there should be no marriage 'where love and health are not'.
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All this talk of religion, but it's how you live your life that is the all-important thing.
If you set out each day to do all the goodness and kindness that you can, and to do no harm to man or beast, then you are walking the highest path.
And when your time is up, if you can leave the earth a better place than you found it, then yours will have been a life well lived.
http://holy-lance.blogspot.com
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12-10-2015, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Do we realise how lucky we are to be able to make our own choices in who we marry/cohabit with and at what age we decide to leave the nest and move on. Free will is priceless.
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Very true.
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All this talk of religion, but it's how you live your life that is the all-important thing.
If you set out each day to do all the goodness and kindness that you can, and to do no harm to man or beast, then you are walking the highest path.
And when your time is up, if you can leave the earth a better place than you found it, then yours will have been a life well lived.
http://holy-lance.blogspot.com
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12-10-2015, 04:21 PM
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No 40.
"This world is a prison for the believer and a paradise for the kafir"
This one is untrue in my opinion as non-muslims also have restrictions as to how they live their lives.
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12-10-2015, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
Do we realise how lucky we are to be able to make our own choices in who we marry/cohabit with and at what age we decide to leave the nest and move on. Free will is priceless.
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Yes, this I do recognize and I am very grateful. However, on the same token, although, we are very fortunate in the West to have these "privileges" we also should be respectful and be sensitive to other people's beliefs and cultures around the world. Many of these women are NOT suppressed, they are happy and accustomed to their way of living. They respect their religion and they respect their man. It has been this way for thousands of generations. The perception of freedom and happiness is different to everyone. |
12-10-2015, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by knightofalbion
I'm reminded of the Essene scripture which says there should be no marriage 'where love and health are not'.
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I agree with "no love " but it is very unkind regarding " no health " that seems to imply that a unhealthy person is unworthy of marriage. When a Christain makes their wedding vows do they not say " in sickness and in health " Mybe I have misunderstood the meaning of the scripture. |
12-10-2015, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
I agree with "no love " but it is very unkind regarding " no health " that seems to imply that a unhealthy person is unworthy of marriage. When a Christain makes their wedding vows do they not say " in sickness and in health " Mybe I have misunderstood the meaning of the scripture.
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My understanding is that it refers to a girl or young woman not being married off to a loveless marriage to an elderly, infirm man - or any sort of loveless marriage.
A very liberated view in that day and age.
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All this talk of religion, but it's how you live your life that is the all-important thing.
If you set out each day to do all the goodness and kindness that you can, and to do no harm to man or beast, then you are walking the highest path.
And when your time is up, if you can leave the earth a better place than you found it, then yours will have been a life well lived.
http://holy-lance.blogspot.com
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12-10-2015, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Clover
Yes, this I do recognize and I am very grateful. However, on the same token, although, we are very fortunate in the West to have these "privileges" we also should be respectful and be sensitive to other people's beliefs and cultures around the world. Many of these women are NOT suppressed, they are happy and accustomed to their way of living. They respect their religion and they respect their man. It has been this way for thousands of generations. The perception of freedom and happiness is different to everyone.
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Fair enough. If the woman is happy, that is the main thing.
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All this talk of religion, but it's how you live your life that is the all-important thing.
If you set out each day to do all the goodness and kindness that you can, and to do no harm to man or beast, then you are walking the highest path.
And when your time is up, if you can leave the earth a better place than you found it, then yours will have been a life well lived.
http://holy-lance.blogspot.com
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12-10-2015, 09:29 PM
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there we go again ... 
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"And when the waves overwhelm them like the dark shadows they call upon Allah for help with pure devotion and when He brings them safety, some of them still doubtful and none denies Our clear signs but every very perfidious very ungrateful one.."
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12-10-2015, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
No 40.
"This world is a prison for the believer and a paradise for the kafir"
This one is untrue in my opinion as non-muslims also have restrictions as to how they live their lives.
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a muslim rider on his horse once was asked that
by pagan of mecca who was in poor health and begging
the pagan asked him : you say this world is the hell of believers
and the heaven for non-believers tell me what kind of heaven
i am in and what kind of hell you are in ?
the Muslim replied : compared to what Allah have for us both in afterlife
what i am in now is hell and prison.. and what you are in now is heaven
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"And when the waves overwhelm them like the dark shadows they call upon Allah for help with pure devotion and when He brings them safety, some of them still doubtful and none denies Our clear signs but every very perfidious very ungrateful one.."
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