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Old 12-12-2011, 02:17 PM
MMM
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saying you're a 'christian spiirtualist' is like saying i am 'jewish mormon'
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:20 PM
deepsea
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trance mediums (and I'm talking SNU certified) are in a different league than 'channelers'
channelers can allow in any ET, angel, guide , self-proclaimed master, even Yoda and the fairies....trance mediums requires great training and dedication - no mere natural medium can do this

Thats correct,have read a fair bit about Trance mediums.
Also Direct voice mediums etc.

Why I was asking about channellers.
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:20 PM
deepsea
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saying you're a 'christian spiirtualist' is like saying i am 'jewish mormon'

Oh my God! What a mixture!
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Old 12-12-2011, 02:25 PM
deepsea
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Puts my head in my hands and cries.......
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:28 PM
mac
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[quote=Lorraine Holloway-White]

It isn't a religion, Yes it is....it is a belief. No it isn't.... I am friends with the president of our local spiritualist church who is also a minister there. so? I have many other people I know similar from around the world and they all say they are not a religion Some people used to say the world was flat but that didn't mean it was - your friends can say whatever they choose, believe whatever they wish - that can't change the actuality.... but have to say they are and that they believe in God as they want to be able to conduct marriages legally and to be able to do so, they have to say they believe in a Deity. yadyadyady.....
We have had long discussions about this as I said it was wrong and they insisted it was ok to do it but they still say if asked they are scientific churches and nothing to do with religion. One thing you COULD help with - what's a scientific church?
Hope that helps? No It might help you but it won't help anyone who wants to know the facts....
There are, however, Christian spiritualist churches who say they do believe in God, but again, their teachings are always purely in the SNU guidelines.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:33 PM
mac
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no it isn't - the two are very different. You have obviously never witnessed either being done properly to say that and have never had it happen to you either. I channel and have never had trance, but one of the people in my Sensitives Development Group works in trance most times - naturally. It is the way they want her to work. They also channel through me as that is the way they want me to work at present. Both are used in a very different way.
There is nothing at all new ageish about it I can assure you and as a natural born medium, it is this sort of thing that happens to natural mediums quite a bit. Whereas what you see when trance is alleged to be done in most groups is totally fake and sad copies of the real thing. It is always obvious to a natural medium when this is happening even though most others are often taken in by it.
If anyone wants to DM me I will be more than happy to answer questions as there is much confusion in these matters due to so many strange teachings

Let's make it simple for you answer. You say you channel so what's 'channelling'? In your words, please, no links to Wikipedia etc no comparisons with anything else - just a few lines of simple explanation.

Then there'll be no confusion for any of us.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:39 PM
mac
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we now have total chaos and confusion
Christians believe in the divinity of christ and that jesus died for our sins - spiritualists don't = so there can be no 'christian spiritualists'
deepsea, tell me that you're loving this?
mac, i know, and glenos, will explode....

No explosion from me. Christian Spiritualism is a curious mix with conflicting principles. For me it isn't Spiritualism.

You explained things well other than when you said there can be no Christian Spiritualists. Folk can call follow any persuasion they choose and call themselves anything they like.

We can't change that by saying there's no such thing.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:41 PM
mac
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Puts my head in my hands and cries.......

why? .
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:50 PM
deepsea
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why? .

Why? Cos I'm too tired to take everything in.
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Old 12-12-2011, 06:51 PM
mac
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This is the Spiritualism forum and discussing channelling is pointless in that context - it's not part of Modern Spiritualism.

A scout round will find threads, here or elsewhere, debating the differences between mediums psychics and sensitives, or mediumship and channelling.

Evidential mediumship is Modern Spiritualism's way of connecting incarnate individuals to their discarnate relatives and friends. (The type of mediumship doesn't really matter provided it furnishes acceptable evidence of details which demonstrate the survival of those in the latter category (discarnates) to those in the former one!!)

It's not mediumship if there isn't a go-between (the medium) facilitating transdimensional communication. It isn't evidential mediumship without acceptable evidence of identity along with information able to verified as supporting that identity etc.

In the context of this Spiritualism forum, information obtained from psychic/auric/Tarot reading et al is not mediumship.
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