The Pure in Heart

Originally Posted by SeaZen

Those who are compassionate and non-judgmental towards others and themselves, pretty simple really

Simple maybe but not easy for some.

There is a heck of a lot of house cleaning to be done in my HEART of HEARTS.
Mopping and sweeping and just when I think I'm finished. Some other odd lesson I learned long ago raises it's head and pukes on my nicely buffed floors.

I guess it's like chop wood carry water enlightenment chop wood carry water.

[Busby]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Among the words of our Lord spoken in the sermon of the mount, are these...

"Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God".

Who do you think are these who are described as the pure in heart?

'Blessed are the pure in heart…' another pointless, aimless, unfounded use of Biblical language to suggest the existence of some undefined target.

[SeaZen]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Simple maybe but not easy for some.

There is a heck of a lot of house cleaning to be done in my HEART of HEARTS.
Mopping and sweeping and just when I think I'm finished. Some other odd lesson I learned long ago raises it's head and pukes on my nicely buffed floors.

I guess it's like chop wood carry water enlightenment chop wood carry water.

Just to clarify, when I said simple I was referring to the explanation/concept, not the process but I do see how my statement can be misconstrued in that regard.

I agree with you that it is not an easy process. I would go even further and claim that much less than 1% of all of humanity has reached that level IMO.

Originally Posted by SeaZen

Just to clarify, when I said simple I was referring to the explanation/concept, not the process but I do see how my statement can be misconstrued in that regard.

I agree with you that it is not an easy process. I would go even further and claim that much less than 1% of all of humanity has reached that level IMO.

I agree, no worries. I wasn't trying to criticize, just felt a need to expound a bit.

[SeaZen]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I agree, no worries. I wasn't trying to criticize, just felt a need to expound a bit.

No worries, didn't think that at all

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by SeaZen

Those who are compassionate and non-judgmental towards others and themselves, pretty simple really

S.Z., agreed.
But, as we should know, we all fall short. Hence the need for God's loving and saving grace, through the shed blood of the Lamb of God, given for sins.

As He Himself spoke about.

[SeaZen]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

S.Z., agreed.
But, as we should know, we all fall short. Hence the need for God's loving and saving grace, through the shed blood of the Lamb of God, given for sins.

As He Himself spoke about.

Hey Morph

I feel that it is an inner journey of many different components that include healing, compassion, evolution etc and not just forgiveness of self and others that can get us there.

Yes forgiveness of self and others is one very key element in this but IMO it is not necessary to believe in the doctrine you describe above for that to happen. Of course, one can ask for and receive Gods assistance with this process.

IMO God is unconditional love and forgiveness has always been there for us without any pre-conditions, doctrines or required beliefs. That said, if that doctrine you describe helps others to get to that point of forgiveness of self and others, then I am supportive of their beliefs and journey. It is when those others say there is no other way than that doctrine for and to everyone else is when it gets irritating to many.

[Morpheus]

"For there is no other name under heaven, by which a man can be saved."

Well, sorry if that is irritating to you.
Nevertheless...
I've well gone into now what, "the sin of the world" is, and why allare in need.
With respect to the human condition, and true origins in contrast to apparent origins.
No exceptions.

[SeaZen]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

"For there is no other name under heaven, by which a man can be saved."

Well, sorry if that is irritating to you.
Nevertheless...
.

No need to apologize Morph, I was just stating a fact on how many who believe differently than you do feel FYI. You can do whatever you choose with that info.

I've well gone into now what, "the sin of the world" is, and why allare in need.

You can't speak for us all Morph, only for yourself and those in your spiritual tribe that share your beliefs

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Morpheus

Among the words of our Lord spoken in the sermon of the mount, are these...
"Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God".
Who do you think are these who are described as the pure in heart?

I would say those that sit in stillness ... to a point that they have reached that 'place of purity'...
like a completely still lake that reflects the sky no less than a mirror..and in this state...God shows Himself...
a place has been set for Him to come.

And that is my personal experience....but I can sit for hours and hours and hours and hours+...eventually
reaching a stillness that most could not imagine...there is hardly even a breath...
this is not something reached in a few minutes each day.

Can this purity be maintained?....practice is the key...consistency of effort.
Purity is the key to the door of Heaven...again, my experience.
Not from a book.