Does time really exist?

[Brucely]

Arent clocks weird? A mechanical movement that we use to determine when it first started moving

Bonus, spiritual ppl do seem to age slower

[Battle00333]

Originally Posted by Glacier Serenade

"Knowing" that time doesn't exist doesn't really make much of a difference for me. If it didn't exist then yes, time travel would not be possible and that would suck for sure, but otherwise, using the word 'time' is simply just a way of referring to what the present used to be, is currently and what could/will be.

Personally I look at it the opposite way, "time travel" IS possible because time doesnt exist.

anyways let me jump on the topic here aswell

This is just a brief explanation of what Time really is
Time is a measurement of the difference between two points defined as "Then" and "Now"
If you Compare "Then" to "Now" I.e. "How long does it take for Then to become Now" you will get a number of seconds, minutes, hours etc.
If you Compare "Now" to "Then" "How long does it take for Now to become Then" you will get a number aswell
So whats the difference? which you compare to what. Since "Then" is both the Future and Past. which you compare to what, is the deciding factor.
"How long does it take for Then to become Now" = How does it take for the Future to become the Present
"How long does it take for Now to become Then" = How long does it take for the Present to become the Past.
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Time says that changing the past is impossible. If it was 10 AM 5 minutes ago, you cant change that.
but if time does NOT exist, doesn't that mean you CAN change what time it was 5 minutes ago?
If you did, did you really? or did you just end up in an alternate timeline where "time" was different than in the original timeline you were in.

When we forget things, do we actually forget, or does the memory stop existing because the past was altered?
and when we manage to remember again, does that mean the past was changed back to its former state?

Just a sidenote
What if the world ended 5 minutes ago due to something that happened 5000 years ago, and someone went back into the past 5000 years ago, stopped something there, and the world never ended 5 minutes ago. We would never been able to tell if that actually happened or not because everything was "reverted" to its former state.
This also brings about the question on how much freedom we actually have over reality.

time not existing makes sense based on this:
Think of when you dream. I have been told that when you dream, your soul actually travels to a different realm or different universe and lives a life there, then comes back before you wake up.
People have even spoken about dreams that have lasted a lifetime, happen in the course of 8 hours of "sleep"

if that is infact true, the soul must be time travellingt does it not?
You fall asleep, then leave Universe A, enter universe B, live in universe B for 75 years. then enter Universe A 8 hours after you left it.
Or the opposite, you leave Universe A, enter universe C instead, spend 5 minutes in Universe C, then go back to Universe A, and find out that 7 hours have passed in Universe A.

If "time" doesnt exist, something far more complex that gives us far more freedom exists which allows what we call "time-travel"
you could say that different universes exists on different wavelengths and vibrations, and thus "time" goes faster / slower in other universes compared to this one.

They say Archangels can be multiple places at once, but are they really? What if the layer, or wavelength they originally exist on, "time" goes so fast, that our universe, appears frozen in time. meaning they could run halfway across the earth, exchange a word, run back, exchange another word, before we could even realize a moment has passed.

The possibilities are endless, and in my opinion; as it should be.

[Glacier Serenade]

Brilliant thoughtful post there Battle! :O


Personally I look at it the opposite way, "time travel" IS possible because time doesnt exist.
I get where you're going with this.

If you did, did you really? or did you just end up in an alternate timeline where "time" was different than in the original timeline you were in.
Yeah, who knows?! Some things are too complex for our minds to comprehend.

When we forget things, do we actually forget, or does the memory stop existing because the past was altered?
and when we manage to remember again, does that mean the past was changed back to its former state?
Interesting theory, but when one forgets, others still remember and are able to verify events.

What if the world ended 5 minutes ago due to something that happened 5000 years ago, and someone went back into the past 5000 years ago, stopped something there, and the world never ended 5 minutes ago. We would never been able to tell if that actually happened or not because everything was "reverted" to its former state.
This also brings about the question on how much freedom we actually have over reality.
Loving your open minded approach on this! If something cannot be disproved, it is not impossible

time not existing makes sense based on this:
Think of when you dream. I have been told that when you dream, your soul actually travels to a different realm or different universe and lives a life there, then comes back before you wake up.
People have even spoken about dreams that have lasted a lifetime, happen in the course of 8 hours of "sleep"

if that is infact true, the soul must be time travellingt does it not?
You fall asleep, then leave Universe A, enter universe B, live in universe B for 75 years. then enter Universe A 8 hours after you left it.
Or the opposite, you leave Universe A, enter universe C instead, spend 5 minutes in Universe C, then go back to Universe A, and find out that 7 hours have passed in Universe A.This theory fits in with my logical thinking too. Dreams usually feel that they last a lot differently to how the actual sleeping period lasts. Therefore, it is indeed possible to speculate about time being nonexistent in dreams (or proof it doesn't exist at all)

Slightly off topic, but I had a thought the other day about how, assuming time is how people say it is, if it was to ever slow down or speed up, we would not realise it, as long as the speed of time changed our minds as well, we wouldn't know anything changed.

[Brucely]

Yes, thats a very good post by Battle

Imagine being cavemen or an animal unaware of time, you would wake up everyday thinking its the same day, but with the advantage of memories u would know which tree has food, where water is, etc. and everyday u could improve your life

[iamthat]

Time varies according to consciousness and vibration.

Linear time is simply the interval between two events in consciousness. We may use artificial devices such as clocks to measure that interval, but consciousness has no clocks.

In consciousness there is only the Eternal Now. All events in consciousness occur in the Eternal Now. Our memories of the past and our hopes and fears for the future are all occurring now.

We experience time on the physical plane as a linear unfolding of events because of the dense vibrations of the physical plane and the resistance of form.

Therefore that which is complete and instantaneous on the mental plane takes a period of time to manifest on the physical plane because the physical vibrations are denser and less responsive to thought, and physical matter has its own inherent resistance to change.

For example, we have the mental idea of building a brick wall. At this level the thought-form is complete from start to finish. On the astral plane we can manifest this brick wall fairly quickly through the use of concentrated thought, because the astral vibrations, although slower than the mental vibrations, are still easily responsive to mental intent. On the physical plane however, there is increased resistance. Building a brick wall requires a lot of physical activity and each brick has to be laid in linear time.

Another way to consider it is as a movie on a DVD. The DVD contains the movie in its entirety, similar to the thought-form on the mental plane. We could simply hold the DVD and instantaneously experience the entire content of it. But on the physical plane we have to play the DVD from start to finish in linear time to discover the content.

Our experience of time depends on our state of consciousness. If we identify with form then all we know is linear time. If we identify with that which is beyond form then there is only Now, within which all experiences occur.

Peace

[Domintheos]

Originally Posted by FrankieJG

Those who have had near death experiences and tried astral projection say there's no past as we think. How does that feel? How does that feel to know that time doesn't exist?

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say time doesn't exist--though it is experienced differently as you progress through higher realities. We exist in a 3D world, with a 4th dimension--time; time itself tends to slow down, and even seem non-existent as you shift frequency from the lower to the higher.