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Old 28-09-2017, 10:01 PM
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Secret practices for rapid spiritual development

Lets pretend I'm sitting in isolation and have a large amount of energy and determination to perform some mental Olympics but I don't know what to do.

What are some of the best techniques you know about for achieving an altered state of consciousness?

For example maybe I just sit here, close my eyes and repeat "I love everyone, I love every thing". As I go on and on there would be thoughts that come up, reasons for saying I do or don't love everyone, etc. So the development would be in examining what comes up and why it comes up.

Another possibility. Sit there and say "(I AM) not this, not that". Then over time the mind comes up and gives reasons for not this, not that, or reasons for being this or that. We examine the thoughts and why it comes up, then move on, etc.



These are very old techniques and well known. I'm more interested in lesser known techniques.

This one has worked well for me in the past. "I want nothing from you".

It seems like question mantras don't work well, but statements are perfect. And the less sense they make the more the mind begins to speak up and give us material to work with.



The idea is to attempt to open up a dialogue with the inner and deeper self. The trick is to not engage the thinking mind when the deep self begins to talk to itself. Just be aware of it and how it has the ability to carry on both sides of a conversation. Keep repeating your mantra or statement and let it talk to itself. If you feel like it question why there are two sides and to which parts of you those sides correspond.


Another type of statement I've noticed works well to rouse the inner self is "I will" statements.

"I will do ____" and they have to be logical or the deep self won't reply. If you make blunt threats or empty threats then the deep self won't reply. It won't even give an emotional response.

Try something easy that is on the verge of something you would do.

"I will go help the homeless tomorrow. or maybe. I will volunteer this weekend" etc.

Watch how quickly the dialogue begins. At first the "I don't want to", but if you are determined eventually the dialogue will change. "maybe I can help out a little, if it's on my way to work or errands". But if you keep with the determination eventually your deep self will begin to help align your other aspects to fulfill your will. It will give you reasons to volunteer and it will give you the emotions and motivation necessary to carry out that will. But it won't do it easily unless you have been doing it for a long time. for a beginner there is always a learning curve. The ego is lazy, it enjoys comfort and it's willing to put up a fight to keep that comfort and safety.

Maybe bump it up and try "I will make healthier choices, even if I don't feel like it at that moment in time". At first the voice of "reason" jumps up and tells us how irrational that is. Or maybe it plays possum and says "oh yeah, great idea, im game" but then next day you find yourself eating comfort food and binge watching netflix.

Challenging yourself is an excellent way to rouse the deep self.
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Old 30-09-2017, 12:44 PM
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Those only focus on the psychological side of things. You should look into energy cultivation as well. Secret practices are secret for a reason. There are prerequisites you have to meet before you can learn that sort of thing.
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Old 01-10-2017, 03:54 PM
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Those only focus on the psychological side of things. You should look into energy cultivation as well. Secret practices are secret for a reason. There are prerequisites you have to meet before you can learn that sort of thing.

Yes, energy affects psychology side and a great thought.
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Old 01-10-2017, 10:21 PM
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Those only focus on the psychological side of things. You should look into energy cultivation as well. Secret practices are secret for a reason. There are prerequisites you have to meet before you can learn that sort of thing.

any tips on where to start?
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:52 PM
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any tips on where to start?
There's lots of sources and different ways to cultivate energy. Depends what you have affinity with. Try a few and see what works for you.....

Elemental energy....earth, fire, water, air, ether, trees and plants, crystals, elemental spirits
Source energy.... Reiki, seventh plane, oneness
Divine energy.... Sacred sites, icons, statues, prayer. Gods, angels, guides, elemental spirits
Soul energy....Akashic record, past lives, the collective unconscious, soul aspects, ego aspects
Psychic energy.... Crowded places, cities, train stations, nightclubs, especially useful in countries with high population density,

If you have trouble I can talk you through it or design a ritual to connect. (Pick one). I have used all of the above at various times. Some people use dreams too but I have no affinity for that. There can also be issues with integration of energy to begin with and you need some level of connection with soul energy to begin working with mana. More connection with soul energy gets you into the higher realms. As you progress into each realm your maximum mana capacity increases so you can get stronger if you do the cultivation necessary.
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Old 04-10-2017, 03:50 AM
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I was going to talk about altered consciousness through the flow of the minds energy, the technique of communication with the self. Still you must choose the way. I spent many years in study and reflection and it was no easy task. I would not be able to guarantee it would work. Since I believe you see the discussion in traditional ways and that information is willing to be shared so I would say you will have to decide. I had no such offer made to me, choice is great.

It doesn't matter which you choose as only can be chosen. But this worked for me as I did have the luxury of another. It is taken again from New Age practice. Many years ago I engaged in study and learning everything I could on the question I had. I spent years on it. I remember people telling me to meditate, it was the way. I tried all the exercises and such and it did not work. And even if you can it takes years to do. But I couldn't even get started.

it was here I decided to take what all the teachers and scholars said. You asked how do you begin, it is time. No matter what you do it will come to you. You need patience and time. I find that conversation is the way for me. Since a person cannot lie to themselves it's the perfect person to have a conversation with. I began by giving myself permission to. I also do this with the subconscious, I tell my subconscious it has freedom to speak to me.

Has any ever done this? This is not a secret practice but a powerful one and one that is not practiced much, it's writing, auto writing in total immersion in dialogue with self. One day I decided to put into my words all that I heard and read. I don't know what happened but one day my mind opened to me. During that period I wrote 131 pages of thoughts, I personally don't know how I altered my mind to do it. It wasn't me. Craziest experience I ever had. It lasted about 2 weeks and I thought it never would end. I no longer know why I can't do it and I suppose back then I would. I put many of my questions to rest upon finding my answer. You do not need every one answered when you learn to enjoy the ones you got.

Speaking is important to us, so important we can't stop doing it so why not use it. I was writing to myself, it is so natural. The thing is it can't be controlled so it may not work. The thing is, though it did not last forever it did answer some my questions forever..... maybe. They haven't changed yet.

So do whatever makes sense I believe the higher self is the way.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:54 AM
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Can anyone make the sun rise any quicker?


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Old 04-10-2017, 09:04 AM
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Can anyone make the sun rise any quicker?


x daz x
Of course!

You can always jump aboard an airplane and travel in a westerly direction.

I appreciate your point though and if it's meant to happen, it will and if not, it won't.

What I am getting at here are those techniques that were taught to me (via the Tantric way), but they may not work for other people.

Nadi Shodhana

Rather than go into a full, detailed explanation of it, many good articles exist online, so I'm just going to be lazy and copy paste one, seeing as how the server is disagreeing with my attempts at posting my own long-winded essays.

https://www.banyanbotanicals.com/inf...ana-pranayama/

Having posted that, the reference material used is awesome! When I was a lot younger, I studied "Asana Pranayama Mudra Bandha" by Swami Satyananda Saraswati until the covers fell off.
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Old 30-09-2017, 04:44 PM
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For me there is only one thing to do ...get into that place inside me that is filled with simple sincerity.
(You think that is easy? Try it....hahahah.)
Then, ask God, my Divine Father/Creator for His Divine Love.


Whatever is the hardest thing for the ego to do, whatever you find big resistance to do...
is what will get you where you'd like to be...which is really just an uncovering.
If the above sounds too simple and the mind wants to pooh-pooh it...you can bet
that is the thing to do !
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:31 PM
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Whatever is the hardest thing for the ego to do, whatever you find big resistance to do...

Absolute deep reflection is what I'm saying to myself. Combine reflection with mediation or mediate on, finding the H.S. of it?
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