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Old 17-02-2015, 08:15 AM
Serrao Serrao is offline
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Integration of meditation or meditation to reach a goal?

Do you practice meditation as part of your life (integration) or do you practice meditation to reach a certain goal, whereafter meditation is not necessary anymore?

For me, I meditate as part of my living.
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Old 17-02-2015, 08:24 AM
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I've never heard of meditation to reach a goal. I practise as part of living.
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Old 17-02-2015, 08:45 AM
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I became interested in meditation as a means to consciously astral project, however, i have found that lots of learning comes from being present in your body not projecting out of it! So it has become part of my daily ritual. My only goal is now to learn.
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Old 17-02-2015, 08:57 AM
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I've never heard of meditation to reach a goal. I practise as part of living.

Below is a short description of someone who achieved Liberation:
"He does not need to study the scriptures or Vedas. He rests in his own essential nature – Self (the Atma-swaroop). Now, where is the need for meditation? Where is the necessity for samadhi for him? He is continuously experiencing the satisfaction which results from samadhi. He enjoys the joy eternal, the joy unspeakable, the joy supreme, the joy unbounded. He knows nothing but joy limitless and unbounded."

It is from this website: http://www.thekundaliniyoga.org/sidd...ddha_yoga.aspx
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Old 17-02-2015, 11:31 AM
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i did not know it at the time but there was a goal.

the controlled breathing affects the amount of air in your blood. this affects the carotid gland. each chakra is associated with a gland. the 8th chakra opens with someone that meditates.

the 8th is the next BIG step. it is the unity chakra. uniting material and spirit.

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Old 17-02-2015, 12:13 PM
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I always set an intention
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Old 17-02-2015, 02:26 PM
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i did not know it at the time but there was a goal.

the controlled breathing affects the amount of air in your blood. this affects the carotid gland. each chakra is associated with a gland. the 8th chakra opens with someone that meditates.

the 8th is the next BIG step. it is the unity chakra. uniting material and spirit.

kk
Interesting...
Where in the body is the 8th chakra located?
Does the unity of material and spirit take place in the body of the meditator? And is this state reversible?
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Old 17-02-2015, 02:31 PM
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the 8th is at the back and base of the head. the unity is what was always there. you have had it all the time. the unity is the off sight chakras. they are not in the physical body. they are in the finer bodies. the double named chakras are the set that opens to give unity.

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Old 17-02-2015, 02:59 PM
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This really depends on the ambiguity of the word, because to my mind, meditation is a very particular thing, but not a mode of practice. This is different to a mode, method or system, and is unconcerned with chakras or what have you. I can't explain like, practice this to work on that, because there isn't a formal structure to it... it's more like the practice of everything, has no notions of deep samadhi or anything besides this just as it is, so there's no set intention of getting anywhere or achieving anything.

It is, just be. Of course, you already are being, so you can't start meditating, and meditation is the natural state of you as you are, the state of nature, life, the universe, so one can inquire, can I feel that which is alive, can I just be that life?

I sum it up like: Be. That is all.
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Old 17-02-2015, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
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Below is a short description of someone who achieved Liberation:
"He does not need to study the scriptures or Vedas. He rests in his own essential nature – Self (the Atma-swaroop). Now, where is the need for meditation? Where is the necessity for samadhi for him? He is continuously experiencing the satisfaction which results from samadhi. He enjoys the joy eternal, the joy unspeakable, the joy supreme, the joy unbounded. He knows nothing but joy limitless and unbounded."

It is from this website: http://www.thekundaliniyoga.org/sidd...ddha_yoga.aspx

What we find through integrating meditation into our lives is different from meditating with the goal or aim of finding something specific.

I read the above quote as someone speaking about what they found - not speaking about a goal that they set out to find.

In my view, when we set out to find something that we think we want, we will find something we can fit to that pre-determined thought (goal achieved). But when we meditate with no specific goal, then we find what is there.
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