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Old 28-06-2011, 01:04 AM
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this animated torus like structure model of cosmos explains a steady state universe with the infinite cycle of expansions and contractions of space ( big bangs and crunches)



imagine that we are in its surface somewhere below the equator. it is not seen in the animation but the bottom singularity of the torus is what scientist posit as a white hole. this is also a singularity like a black hole only opposite that instead that it sucks everything, it spews everything out. this therefore is can be the big bang part of the whole dynamic cycle. so if we are below the equator, we are near this white hole and when we measure the surface of our sphere we will perceives that everything is expanding. ( the animation does not show this but the surface of the image was divided in hexagon to see that it contracts when near the pole of the torus) using our imagination, we will see at the bottom that a hexagon shape of space will slowly form and expand until it reach the equator then slowly it will contract to a singularity as it reaches the pole.

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this animated torus like structure model of cosmos explains a steady state universe with the infinite cycle of expansions and contractions of space ( big bangs and crunches)



imagine that we are in its surface somewhere below the equator. it is not seen in the animation but the bottom singularity of the torus is what scientist posit as a white hole. this is also a singularity like a black hole only opposite that instead that it sucks everything, it spews everything out. this therefore is can be the big bang part of the whole dynamic cycle. so if we are below the equator, we are near this white hole and when we measure the surface of our sphere we will perceives that everything is expanding. ( the animation does not show this but the surface of the image was divided in hexagon to see that it contracts when near the pole of the torus) using our imagination, we will see at the bottom that a hexagon shape of space will slowly form and expand until it reach the equator then slowly it will contract to a singularity as it reaches the pole.

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So, dependant on where the observation point is deemed to be the universe expands or contracts, but wholefully it exhibits both features simultaneously while remaining consistant.

That's my favorite model of all Hybrid.
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yup. what is consistent being existence itself. no something out of nothing vanilla big bang myths.
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Old 28-06-2011, 08:42 AM
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So is this summarizing that the universe is a donut?
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Old 28-06-2011, 08:46 AM
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yup. what is consistent being existence itself. no something out of nothing vanilla big bang myths.


Mmmmmmm vanilla donuts.

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yup. what is consistent being existence itself. no something out of nothing vanilla big bang myths.

The density of space is constant, and it is expanding 'space' we are talking about, and that's a bit of an oxymoron, because things aren't expanding into space, space is expanding itself.
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The density of space is constant, and it is expanding 'space' we are talking about, and that's a bit of an oxymoron, because things aren't expanding into space, space is expanding itself.

So if space is constant density and it is expanding, this suggests that there is a wall of space venturing into not space. So what is not space?

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The density of space is constant, and it is expanding 'space' we are talking about, and that's a bit of an oxymoron, because things aren't expanding into space, space is expanding itself.

curvature of space suggest that space density is not constant. it is only assumed constant if your model is fields and particles universe.

space is frequency conscious. the expansion of space somewhere is compensated by compression of space in nearby black holes, so there is a balance and nothing is really created nor destroy. there is really no need to think of space expanding into something. it's all space. even matter and particles and stars and galaxies are only wave structure of space. undulations in the fabric of space.
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Old 28-06-2011, 11:37 AM
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curvature of space suggest that space density is not constant. it is only assumed constant if your model is fields and particles universe.

space is frequency conscious. the expansion of space somewhere is compensated by compression of space in nearby black holes, so there is a balance and nothing is really created nor destroy. there is really no need to think of space expanding into something. it's all space. even matter and particles and stars and galaxies are only wave structure of space. undulations in the fabric of space.

Things move furthur apart so we say space is expanding, but space can't really be becoming a lighter density, only that mass remains the same but in a larger space, so we really say the overall density of matter in the universe is lessening, which is not less matter, but more space.
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So if space is constant density and it is expanding, this suggests that there is a wall of space venturing into not space. So what is not space?

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