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Old 24-01-2015, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lutonja86
You make it sound easy. :)
I agree that the whole life shouldnt be built around the
transgender problem.

There is a lesson behind
this experience as it is with any other, but what would you say to a 5 year old that
asks you why it is born with “wrong parts“ or presents himself
as your son even he is born with female parts.
And he gets even more introverted when puberty hits. Would you
play it down with “it is just a body“,

He has to live with
that conflict his whole life or change it and live a normal life.

Transgender problem? I think they would be just fine if we would stop judging them. Who says its a problem?

No, I would not play it down with 'it's just a body'. That is not playing it down, that is playing it real. I would tell them that it doesn't matter what body they live in they can identify with any gender they choose. I have a boy who loves ladies clothes, the only thing he needs from me is my acceptance.
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Old 24-01-2015, 08:03 PM
Lutonja86 Lutonja86 is offline
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Your son has the luck to be surrounded by openminded people.
I said problem.
If i go deeper into that I will
stray offtopic.
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Old 26-01-2015, 04:56 AM
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That is why I studied the dream realm and from there converted my Spirituality to match control of the Dream realm. It has given a interesting outlook on the development of my Spiritual side because I am not religious instead I am a Spiritualist trying to find a balance between the old and new as well as understanding my own desire.

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This.

I find this more interesting than the body. Or even word 'transgender'.
Controlling the dream realm and looking for a balance, please tell us more.
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Old 26-01-2015, 02:23 PM
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All of my Spirituality has been based around one key fact me being Transgender. While I have watched many forms tell people who are Transgender there is no way to change the body by magic I have always taken that as a challenge.

For me I believe there are many forms of concepts out there that we can not truly say what will effect the body. Magic itself is just a concept just as Spirituality is. That is why I studied the dream realm and from there converted my Spirituality to match control of the Dream realm. It has given a interesting outlook on the development of my Spiritual side because I am not religious instead I am a Spiritualist trying to find a balance between the old and new as well as understanding my own desire.

All of my Spirituality has been based around one key fact me being Transgender.

I find that an interesting statement, so I thought I'd comment. I see spirituality as the opposite of gender. In my view, there is no gender in Spirituality and we are all spiritual beings having a physical life. I believe we choose what bodies we are born into, we pick a gender before we are born, the same as we pick what type of circumstances we will be born into. We have as many lives as we choose to have, on any given circumstance. Say you live in LA. Chances are, you could have 10 lives in LA, and then the next life say you want to experience the rural aspect of life, and choose some small town somewhere. You might feel very fish out of water in that life, and gravitate towards the closest Big City because that is what is familiar to you. Gender is the same thing. If you had 10 lives as a man, and wanted to experience being a woman this time around, you might feel like a fish out of water for awhile when you are younger, and find it hard to identify yourself in this new body that is difference that what you were expecting. But the you that is spiritual wanted to experience the difference, wanted to explore what being the opposite sex was like for a time.

My 2 cents is appreciate whatever body you have, that it is all in working order and gets you where you want to go, and feeds you, and does the million things you have taught it to do by repetition. When you realize you are not your body, but that your body responds to your thoughts about it, and you have a symbiotic relationship with it, you might be more accepting of it, because you chose it, and it is helping you to be in this physical life, for without it, you would not be here.

Then just be the person you want to be, be yourself, whatever that is and embrace the spirit that you are. It never matters if we are male or female, only what is inside us, not the physical appearance, but the emotional one.

Gender is only what society say it is, but it is not truth. There is not a male that doesn't have female aspects, or a female that doesn't have male aspects. We are both, just usually manifest physically as one or the other, or both. There are many people who are born both, it was just not spoken about much, but with the internet it is becoming more clear that that is a normal gender manifestation, but society has not been allowed to recognize it as such.

I think the first step on a spiritual journey is to love yourself, and learning how to love ourselves is a bit tricky. We are not always allowed to do that as children, because our parents tell us what they think is more important than what we think, so until you are an adult and can separate your ideas from what your parents wanted, we can't really love ourselves until we know who WE are, not who are parents want us to be or think we are.

There is a Magic in loving yourself. It changes you forever, and it can't be taken away from you. I am not saying you can't change your physical form, for of course you can, but I am saying the Magic of the Universe can't help you from where you are.

If you can embrace where you are now, and love yourself, and be happy with where you are right now, and be in Joy about where you are right now, that is the Key to finding the Magic of your life. It is not "out there" somewhere, it is inside yourself. And there is no gender in Spirituality.

I think, just from my limited perspective of what I have learned, is that we ask that our physical form become what we want, and it does.
We ask the atoms and molecules that are our body to become our body BEFORE it becomes our body. So you have already asked for the Magic and it happened. You physically manifested what you wanted to become.

Now you are asking your physical body to undo itself. Anything is possible, if you believe that it is, but you might have to live in a place where there are no other people for it to manifest, because it is your belief that it manifest and the minute that someone who knows you sees you, and they believe something that you don't, that might be a problem for you.

I remember an Abraham video, where Abraham was speaking about Jesus and how he healed people. He held in his mind the utter knowing of the well being of the person in front of him and he didn't see anything but there well being and he had practiced this for a long time and was able to heal people and convince them they were healed, but he told them, go forth and tell no one, for the minute that the nay sayers would say something there belief might change back to being unwell.

Well Being is our natural state of being. Only a belief can change that. And we have many beliefs about ourselves, that have been gifted to us by the people around us.

I think the Magic you are looking for is in your Beliefs. There is a Magic of your Being that agrees with you.

I channeled something late last year that went like this: Once there was a man who thought he could fly and he was right.

It took me some pondering. I asked myself, what did that mean? Where they talking about John Lennon - no that didn't sound right, who else might that be? Then I wrote it down, and the Magic of it is in the spelling error I made.

Once there was a man who thought he could fly and he was Wright.

If you have never heard of Seth, well I would recommend you read "Seth Speaks, by Jane Roberts" then "the Magical Approach, by Jane Roberts." Seth speaks about how we form our image, how consciousness forms matter, not the other way around. Here is a quick audio clip speaking about that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlrhvAYgwH8

Another book recommendation, about embracing the whole of you, is "The Camino by Shirley MacClaine" I spelled her name wrong, it doesn't look right. Anyway, what an amazing book and I can't recommend it enough.

Good luck and have some fun along the way.
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Old 26-01-2015, 02:43 PM
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I found another, longer clip: Probably Realities and the Miracle of Your Being - Seth Speaks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gvK9mYxKtM
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Old 11-02-2015, 10:48 AM
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You are in a very great place to learn what that is...it's
kind of exciting because you are more in a pressure cooker than I am this life.
Being in a pressure cooker means fast growth...to me.

This is very well put, Miss Hepburn.

I have been contemplating on the same lately. If you encounter pressure with a positive attitude ( which comes with expanding consciousness), you can achieve much more spiritual growth, which helps you in future lives.

I know of handicapped friends missing limbs or sight, who worked hard with the aid of a positive mental attitude and made the most of their limited resources to succeed and live a normal life.

And I know of completely healthy individuals who were let down by a negative attitude and did not make much of their lives.

A negative mental attitude ( which comes with unconsciouness) is the biggest handicap while a positive attitude is indeed the greatest strength in each individual.

And any person with more adversity, if he tackles it with a constant positive attitude, will gain more strength in the process than the average individual. This success-consciousness created, then aids this individual in future lives and gains greater success for him or her then too by the force of momentum

Hence adversity really means faster growth if one have the right attitude.
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Old 17-02-2015, 07:37 AM
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I think this is interesting, childofthemoon. Although i have to admit i do doubt a complete genital transformation, i think through self hypnosis and other mental means it is possible to regulate the hormones our body produces. At a more extreme level it should definitely be possible to suppress the hormones you dont want as much and secrete more of those you do want, eventually causing a noticable change in hair growth, fat distribution, voice, etc.
Do keep us posted :)
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Old 19-02-2015, 05:55 AM
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This.

I find this more interesting than the body. Or even word 'transgender'.
Controlling the dream realm and looking for a balance, please tell us more.

Through lucid dreaming we have the freedom to explore ourselves as well as our spirituality. We can do most anything in a dream including contact our higher self. I use the dream realm to understand more about my sub as well as outer self while I try to find a balance between everything within the self.
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Old 19-02-2015, 06:01 AM
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I think this is interesting, childofthemoon. Although i have to admit i do doubt a complete genital transformation, i think through self hypnosis and other mental means it is possible to regulate the hormones our body produces. At a more extreme level it should definitely be possible to suppress the hormones you dont want as much and secrete more of those you do want, eventually causing a noticable change in hair growth, fat distribution, voice, etc.
Do keep us posted :)

The question truly is who are we and what are we. When we narrow down the true reality verses the false reality we create a Spiritual sense that makes us question what reality really is and do we follow the normal of really or do we question the reality to suit our need and time. To me this is Spirituality the questioning of the self on the deepest of levels to find a path to move forward rather it be spiritual or physical .
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Old 19-02-2015, 08:42 PM
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You don't have to limit yourself from taking physical action to what you want because spiritual encompasses physical.
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