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14-08-2018, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
I can't name them. In general the ones who claim I AM ALL. Maybe Sai Baba is a good example.
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14-08-2018, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
Don't forget the story of A Christmas Carol where Scrooge redeemed himself by loving others. He was very self centred and rediscovered his dignity when he finally loved others.
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Fortunately I do remember the story, and for that reason I disagree that Scrooge was "self-centered". Scrooge was a miserly old man. Miserly people tend not to spend money on any one, including themselves. Scrooge denied himself the lavishness of his own wealth for that reason he couldn't have been self-centered. Scrooge loved money above all. He substituted love for money. Scrooge horded money to fill a void in his life, but Scrooge wasn't able to recognize what the void was until the very end (when he saw his grave).
The whole point of the Christmas Carol is about loving yourself. Even if you're in the service of others, if you don't allow yourself to be loved, then your heart is dark - you will make yourself miserable.
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15-08-2018, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sky123
How can you give away what you don't have yourself ?
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it's easy, love is an emotion, it's not physical. I feel very little love for myself, but I feel love for everyone close to me. There more important than I am. What I do for them isn't because I love myself, it's because I love them. If you don't have love in your heart you probably couldn't love others. But the love in my heart isn't for me.
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15-08-2018, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hallow
it's easy, love is an emotion, it's not physical. I feel very little love for myself, but I feel love for everyone close to me. There more important than I am. What I do for them isn't because I love myself, it's because I love them. If you don't have love in your heart you probably couldn't love others. But the love in my heart isn't for me.
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15-08-2018, 05:08 AM
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Well said you two. People can also discover love for their own self by loving others - like I was trying to say about Scrooge.
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15-08-2018, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Honza
Well said you two. People can also discover love for their own self by loving others - like I was trying to say about Scrooge.
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that's true as well, love can spread like any other emotion. Most people don't realize that there a reflection of what's around them. Like scrooge, he was a crabby old man with no feel of love. Because no one felt for him. It's a lot harder to love then not to. Well in a perfect world. To bad it's not perfect. Well, guess you just have to stay strong and do your best. Maybe someone will benefit from you. Like some scrooge
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15-08-2018, 02:38 PM
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You can't receive or give what you don't have, it maybe the size of a mustard seed but it starts within which is why were told to awake to the Christ in us God's kingdom and dwelling , our divine nature is perfect love.
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15-08-2018, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke55
You can't receive or give what you don't have, it maybe the size of a mustard seed but it starts within which is why were told to awake to the Christ in us God's kingdom and dwelling , our divine nature is perfect love.
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Well I can definitely recieve what I don't have ( Chocs, Flowers, Perfume etc:  ) but I agree that you cannot give what you don't have... Impossible. |
15-08-2018, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke55
You can't receive or give what you don't have, it maybe the size of a mustard seed but it starts within which is why were told to awake to the Christ in us God's kingdom and dwelling , our divine nature is perfect love.
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I agree with you Zeke. You nailed it on the head.
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15-08-2018, 05:29 PM
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Ok if we go by this kind of logic, if I don't love myself it means I can not even love my parents? What kind of presumptuous statement is this?
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