It is both;inner and outer

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by M.Tesla

Your post made me remember my nde, of last July. When I was going unconcious, basically I was returning to the earth. I felt some part of myself floating down into the dirt underneath the ground.

I guess I'm wondering if anyone else thinks this is what happens when we move on from our physical bodies? Not meaning to hikack the thread, but this is what came to mind
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Hi M.Telsa,

I have not had a NDE.

What you share brings some thoughts to mind.

What did/does the experience bring into your life at present?

Perhaps by going deep into the Earth you were finding some kind of healing for yourself.

What connection do you have with the Earth?

(The thread is pretty free flowing, atleast for me.)

Wish you well.

Thank you for sharing

[Moonglow]

Hello,

Further reflection

What is thought can create how it is viewed.
What is being viewed is not fully what is thought

Both can hold a truth, but at times takes looking a little deeper and not jumping to conclusions.
Other times, to just enjoy what is being experienced.

Can go on, but in short what comes to me at present is;
Don't over think it.

[Unseeking Seeker]

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Thought by thinker being ... resonation with chosen vibration
The observer as formless presence ... in stillness observation
or rooted in grooves of memory drawn interpretation?

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[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

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Thought by thinker being ... resonation with chosen vibration
The observer as formless presence ... in stillness observation
or rooted in grooves of memory drawn interpretation?

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At times it is chosen.
Other times just happens.
Adjusting as willing.
The part at times not discussed is it takes effort, action, and time.
Presence may observe, but nudges one to observe as well.
Past memories, dreams, love held in the heart is where the continuance forms and flows.

When not over thinking becomes more clear. Like looking in a pool of water. When you stop stirring up the water and muck, the muck settles and can see more clearly the depths of the pool. What it may reflect also becomes more clear.
The way it seems at present for me.

Thank you

[Unseeking Seeker]

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Yes, of course.

Each minuscule consciousness shift is ascension if assimilated.

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Originally Posted by Moonglow

When not over thinking becomes more clear. Like looking in a pool of water. When you stop stirring up the water and muck, the muck settles and can see more clearly the depths of the pool. What it may reflect also becomes more clear.
The way it seems at present for me.

Thank you

Yes, this is why retreats and monasteries can help - it is hard to willingly turn off sometimes...



Namaste,

JL

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

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Yes, of course.

Each minuscule consciousness shift is ascension if assimilated.

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Yes, each shift can bring heightened awareness. Now it is noticed.
Assimilating can be the part that takes time and effort. For me.

Patience seems the key and adjusting oneself as may be needed.

Appreciate your support and encouraging words.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by janielee

Yes, this is why retreats and monasteries can help - it is hard to willingly turn off sometimes...



Namaste,

JL

Yes, no argument here.

Not so inclined to go to a retreat, but it is not over yet. As time and (will say) money allows and of course myself doing it.

In the hectic world we live in it does appear those quiet places are getting a bit rare.

I live in a rural area, so will take a stroll in the woods or find a quiet spot by a lake.

When I lived in a city would seek out places in a park away from the crowd and just sit and chill out.

I guess it is if one desires it strong enough, one will create space for it. Even it is just to remember to breath and


Namaste

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by Moonglow

Hello,

It is both, inner and outer. When this life ends seem to blend back to being neither.

The above thought popped into mind.

There is talk how Spirtuality is "self development". Yes, can see it this way in the sense that what may come, be realized, become aware of, lived, and interacted with, seems to come back to the self/individual.

Yet, live in a world in which other factors affect my development. Through others gain insights, inspiration, and interactions. Through nature may gain similar. Without these observations and interactions how much would be gained, realized, and noticed?

Nature and Spirit also seems to do it owns thing. Spirit being referred as that which gives life, the energy that seems to flow, presence of life in its many forms.

These manifestations and interactions also have thier influences upon how things develop. Can be inspiring and bring transformations to life. Can also bring adjustments needed to be made.

The part stated it "seems to blend back to being neither", guess refers to my own reflection. That creating it to be this or that and even both seem in a way a construct with in the mind/consciousness. When the individual form(s) cease to be and in pure formless/spirit form brings me at present to say that it all blends into a union, some may say one.

In the grand scale seems one is connected to another, and so on and as a unit is one living being of itself. Call it what one will or not. With in this it is neither inner/outer, but a delicate blending/balance of the inner and outer creating one.

These thoughts Are what comes at present and seem not fully complete. Meaning,something has shifted in my outlook and has not gone away over the years, but becomes more and more clear and shift and change at times.

No boundaries except those made by the individual.

The individual in essence.being reflections of creation. Creation being the act, manifestation, flow. One in the on going continuance of life here and wherever else it my flow.

Felt to express these thoughts here, to possibly open up some discussion and exchanges. They are my reflections at present. Placing some pieces together, yet feel there is more to come.

Welcome any insights and thoughts you all may have.

This is very beautiful and a lot of profound imagery and insights.

There still exists the "inner and outer" the world of "nature vs nurture" even though you may have mentally reconciled their dual and mutual exclusivity until the "one" or the unity (Yoga) is reached...but the concept still exists.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

This is very beautiful and a lot of profound imagery and insights.

There still exists the "inner and outer" the world of "nature vs nurture" even though you may have mentally reconciled their dual and mutual exclusivity until the "one" or the unity (Yoga) is reached...but the concept still exists.

Hi Shivani Devi,

Thank you for thie kind words in regards to the OP.

Sure, there is still the differences, but they are not in conflict with each other. Each just being as it is being. The need to dominate one over the other seems to soften with in the mind.

Nature can nurture as well, at times. Nature can be ruthless at other times. But nature itself is not doing what it does as something against or for me. It gives what I may need, but up to me to graciously receive it.

Sure while working to understand and finding balance with in, at times concepts form to give some kind of idea in what direction to go. But, do not know where the path may lead unless I take the path.

What another may express and experience is his/her truth, if not experienced by me then it is only an idea. Unless, there is effort on my part to understand what is actually being expressed. Even then may end up being a concept in my mind because it is not what I experienced.

May still be differences, but no need for conflicts. A unity felt in being human and feeling similar emotions at times. A unity felt of being of nature and not supreme over nature. So a unity of sorts felt and intergrated with in.

This for me is where divisions begin to dissolve. The dualities reform (in the mind)into contrasts and reflect more of the diversities, then dualities. All being of living life here.

Yes, concepts will exist. Because some will stick with what is partly known or thought to be, while others will notice what is just being. At times known, at other times not known with in the mind, but happening just the same and felt.

Nothing is really vs. anything unless I decide in my mind it is. Then it is me constructing those dualities. It is just happening as it is created at present. What comes to me.

Through this am of it and individual as this being/person. It can be a brain twister, lol. When over thinking, am reminded to just breathe and relax. To not think about it so much, but to simply to notice.

In this the concepts seem to melt away and a unity with nature felt because I am not trying to, but just allowing myself to be. In response everything else is allowed to just be at present.

If action is needed, then for me to do. If not, don't sweat it.

Sharing some thoughts that come to me.