Tendencies of the Knights

[Pandora.]

Originally Posted by Pisces_Moon

King of Wands is the 'mentor', a natural leader who happily participates. He likes to consider new ideas, go to him with a feasible idea and he'll look at it with a plan on how to implement it. He looks at long term goals, he's not a 'quick fix' type of person. Whatever he does, he will consider the effect it has on others. This is the person who gives credit where it's due.

The Knight of Wands can be a bit more impetuous. They can sometimes lose sight of the long term goal as they pursue the short term success. They are innovative and full of ideas but lack the focus of the Kings. They do consider others, but, the urge to 'get the job done' so they can move on to the next, means they can be seen as impatient. They can be high energy with rapid fire ideas. They're the type who you can have a laugh with, they're warm, charismatic and charming (hence the love 'em and leave 'em tag).

Your description is brilliant. I always consider my son as a Knight of Wands (even though he's over 30). There's not one thing in your description that doesn't ring true for him. You have a fantastic way with words too, I always enjoy reading your posts

Aww thanks Pandora.

[moonincancer]

Am taking notes from this thread as I always find the knights challenging to read.
PiscesMoon
Whenever I have pulled out the King of swords for understanding a man's profile it has come up for a over critical judgemental person; and the King of wands for a very sexually driven man. The same does not apply to the knights of swords and wands.

[Clover]

Energy is always changing, evolving and and transmuting. One can be King of Cups one day, Knight of wands tomorrow so I get that.

You know what though ( here comes the rant rofl) I had a not so great experience with a person that kept showing up as a Knight of Wands for me. At that time, I always wanted to see the best in this person but you know how emotions make us have blinders.The truth of the matter is, this guy was ping ponging the hell out of me along with others. Even if it was my own mental doing/perception, his lack of assertiveness in the 'relationship' really cause a lot of insecurities in me. I really don't think it was much on purpose as much as he really just lacked maturity at the time. Really great compatible chemistry on an energetic level. He would alternate between Knight of Coins or Wands, but never showed up with A King draw. Perhaps, he didnt want the responsibility of an 'attachment' but he sure loved getting the affection and attention which was in that regard irresponsible anyways. In contrast, I feel King energy is really much more responsible/structured on how he delegates, is also assertive with their energy and they are balanced. In short, they mean business, they aren't d*cking around. Again, it all has to do where the energy is. Knight of wands today, King of Wands tomorrow. Rather than mold a person into the archetype, Ask your self in deep contemplation, why is the energy changing? What events are causing this person to have knight characteristics....

Any who, I also think it's Knight of wands is youthful flirty energy that is in all of us. It could be a short burst of entertainment, I have seen this before. That saying, I do apologize in advance if I made this card come off with more of a negative connotation, I just had a not so great experience with that card. I like a knight of swords. I always expect to get some kind of form of communication from a person with a knight of swords . Its usually always serious too!

[Pandora.]

Originally Posted by Clover

EnEnergy is always changing, evolving and and transmuting. One can be King of Cups one day, Knight of wands tomorrow so I get that.

You know what though ( here comes the rant rofl) I had a not so great experience with a person that kept showing up as a Knight of Wands for me. At that time, I always wanted to see the best in this person but you know how emotions make us have blinders.The truth of the matter is, this guy was ping ponging the hell out of me along with others. Even if it was my own mental doing/perception, his lack of assertiveness in the 'relationship' really cause a lot of insecurities in me. I really don't think it was much on purpose as much as he really just lacked maturity at the time. Really great compatible chemistry on an energetic level. He would alternate between Knight of Coins or Wands, but never showed up with A King draw. Perhaps, he didnt want the responsibility of an 'attachment' but he sure loved getting the affection and attention which was in that regard irresponsible anyways. In contrast, I feel King energy is really much more responsible/structured on how he delegates, is also assertive with their energy and they are balanced. In short, they mean business, they aren't d*cking around. Again, it all has to do where the energy is. Knight of wands today, King of Wands tomorrow. Rather than mold a person into the archetype, Ask your self in deep contemplation, why is the energy changing? What events are causing this person to have knight characteristics....

Any who, I also think it's Knight of wands is youthful flirty energy that is in all of us. It could be a short burst of entertainment, I have seen this before. That saying, I do apologize in advance if I made this card come off with more of a negative connotation, I just had a not so great experience with that card. I like a knight of swords. I always expect to get some kind of form of communication from a person with a knight of swords . Its usually always serious too!

It's always great to get other's perspectives on cards - most especially the Courts. Do you read reversals? (I can't recall from your posts). Funnily enough, I was bored and trying to think of ways to do inventive play readings when Oscar Pistorius was gaoled. I drew the Knight of Wands reversed for him, which I thought was quite fitting. I read it at the time as something along the lines of regretting impulsive, reckless behaviour, flying off the deep end, needing public validation, not liking to be upstaged, and a few other things I won't mention. Fascinating (yes, I know, I need to get a life)

[Clover]

Originally Posted by Pandora.

It's always great to get other's perspectives on cards - most especially the Courts. Do you read reversals? (I can't recall from your posts). Funnily enough, I was bored and trying to think of ways to do inventive play readings when Oscar Pistorius was gaoled. I drew the Knight of Wands reversed for him, which I thought was quite fitting. I read it at the time as something along the lines of regretting impulsive, reckless behaviour, flying off the deep end, needing public validation, not liking to be upstaged, and a few other things I won't mention. Fascinating (yes, I know, I need to get a life)

Haha, sound about right, ego feeding and public validation are big ones! Well that sounds like a cool idea what you did. I didn't realize one could role play with the cards like that which I noticed you do similar with your Dear Abby thread Sounds really neat!

I prefer not to do reversals! I always straighten my cards to be upward, every now and then I will get a reversal, I always use the Reverse cards no matter what. I think they matter but I try to not set my deck to have the reversals.

Gotta pick my kiddos from school before I stay on this forum and get myself in trouble

Originally Posted by Clover

Energy is always changing, evolving and and transmuting. One can be King of Cups one day, Knight of wands tomorrow so I get that.

You know what though ( here comes the rant rofl) I had a not so great experience with a person that kept showing up as a Knight of Wands for me. At that time, I always wanted to see the best in this person but you know how emotions make us have blinders.The truth of the matter is, this guy was ping ponging the hell out of me along with others. Even if it was my own mental doing/perception, his lack of assertiveness in the 'relationship' really cause a lot of insecurities in me. I really don't think it was much on purpose as much as he really just lacked maturity at the time. Really great compatible chemistry on an energetic level. He would alternate between Knight of Coins or Wands, but never showed up with A King draw. Perhaps, he didnt want the responsibility of an 'attachment' but he sure loved getting the affection and attention which was in that regard irresponsible anyways. In contrast, I feel King energy is really much more responsible/structured on how he delegates, is also assertive with their energy and they are balanced. In short, they mean business, they aren't d*cking around. Again, it all has to do where the energy is. Knight of wands today, King of Wands tomorrow. Rather than mold a person into the archetype, Ask your self in deep contemplation, why is the energy changing? What events are causing this person to have knight characteristics....

Any who, I also think it's Knight of wands is youthful flirty energy that is in all of us. It could be a short burst of entertainment, I have seen this before. That saying, I do apologize in advance if I made this card come off with more of a negative connotation, I just had a not so great experience with that card. I like a knight of swords. I always expect to get some kind of form of communication from a person with a knight of swords . Its usually always serious too!

Oh dear Clover, not a good experience with the Knight of Wands, looks like he displayed all his negative aspects while trying to mask them with 'positive' ones. Definitely a player.

About 3 years ago the King of Wands showed up for months in every reading I did for my daughter. Even though the card was never reversed, all the other cards suggested his negative side. Couldn't fathom who it was until........dumdumduuuuuuum 2 years ago she met a real charmer not your usual King of Wands (even reversed) although his temper was unbelievable. He was a narcissist who played on her weaknesses and gaslighted her beyond belief. Turns out though he is born under Leo so the fire element was appropriate.
(Eventually we were able to get her out of the situation after 18 months, tho she's still suffering the aftermath).
I became very wary of the King of Wands card for a while, but what helped me was to remember my dad was also a King of Wands and he displayed all the positive aspects of the King always.

It also demonstrates why readers need to be neutral in their dealings with the cards at all times. Sitters can be helped by sharing an experience you may have had but aren't when, due to an experience, the reader can't get past their feeling about the card.

We really need a general tarot discussion thread

[tealily]

This is why I created the Tarot From Real Life game - although maybe we need a Court Cards: Celebrity Figures! version

I also don't agree with the 'knights are immature and impetuous' card. To me the difference is kind of like the maturity of the energy, with Kings obviously being more mature.

King of Wands in particular has always made me think of Richard Branson (the Virgin guy). Massive entrepreneurial skillz; loads of creative starter energy but enough discipline and intelligence to actually see things through.

I feel like I work with guys who have lots of Knight of Wands energy (both upright or reversed depending on the day; I think there's also a bit of reversed Knight/King of Cups going on too). It helps explain to me why they're so emotionally volatile... -_-

I wish I had an easy way to explain to someone the difference between when court cards represent a person Vs an event or characteristic, but I don't. I'm just fortunate enough to have developed enough of a relationship with my own cards (practice practice practice) that intuition can help me out most of the time. I like Pisces' old comment about tarot cards really just being oracle cards - and then from there, knowing cartomancy is really just a tool to help facilitate intuition. When you think about the cards (or tea leaves, runes, sticks, anything) as gateways rather than definite meanings of their own, it's a little overwhelming but opens things up a bit more... :)

[FairyCrystal]

Originally Posted by Pisces_Moon

King of Wands is the 'mentor', a natural leader who happily participates. He likes to consider new ideas, go to him with a feasible idea and he'll look at it with a plan on how to implement it. He looks at long term goals, he's not a 'quick fix' type of person. Whatever he does, he will consider the effect it has on others. This is the person who gives credit where it's due.

The Knight of Wands can be a bit more impetuous. They can sometimes lose sight of the long term goal as they pursue the short term success. They are innovative and full of ideas but lack the focus of the Kings. They do consider others, but, the urge to 'get the job done' so they can move on to the next, means they can be seen as impatient. They can be high energy with rapid fire ideas. They're the type who you can have a laugh with, they're warm, charismatic and charming (hence the love 'em and leave 'em tag).

Thank you for this feedback!
I'm thinking, can't you just publish a number of books? Actually quite serious about that.

[FairyCrystal]

Originally Posted by tealily

This is why I created the Tarot From Real Life game - although maybe we need a Court Cards: Celebrity Figures! version

I also don't agree with the 'knights are immature and impetuous' card. To me the difference is kind of like the maturity of the energy, with Kings obviously being more mature.

King of Wands in particular has always made me think of Richard Branson (the Virgin guy). Massive entrepreneurial skillz; loads of creative starter energy but enough discipline and intelligence to actually see things through.

I feel like I work with guys who have lots of Knight of Wands energy (both upright or reversed depending on the day; I think there's also a bit of reversed Knight/King of Cups going on too). It helps explain to me why they're so emotionally volatile... -_-

I wish I had an easy way to explain to someone the difference between when court cards represent a person Vs an event or characteristic, but I don't. I'm just fortunate enough to have developed enough of a relationship with my own cards (practice practice practice) that intuition can help me out most of the time. I like Pisces' old comment about tarot cards really just being oracle cards - and then from there, knowing cartomancy is really just a tool to help facilitate intuition. When you think about the cards (or tea leaves, runes, sticks, anything) as gateways rather than definite meanings of their own, it's a little overwhelming but opens things up a bit more... :)

You're completely right! I am doing a lot better with the courtcards than I did some years ago. Then just when you think you're getting somewhere with it, I heard this comment from that one reader and I couldn't shake it.
I do feel it differs a lot per deck too. The Knight of Wands of the Green Witch tarot doesn't make me feel like "I'm a hurry, things are about to explode".
It feels more like "I'm not in a hurry. I know where I'm going, no doubt about that, and I will get there no matter what!" But more like "If it takes a week, it takes a week, no problem. (But I know will get there!)"

Maybe one of the reasons I like the Green Witch tarot so much is that the images are similar to RWS yet totally different, so the default interpretations I've learnt all these years kind of disappear into the background. Allowing my own intuition to kick in more easily.