Why Do These People Never Stay Together?

[lunapixie]

Originally Posted by bluedahlia

Hi lunapixie, I discovered that when editing, select the 'Go Advanced' option and the emoticons will work through there :)

❤💛💚💙💜🖤

Oh, so cute! Thank you! 💙

[Tortoise Walks]

I know what you mean... there is grieving. hugs always...

it's a process... maybe part of it is teasing out all of the grieving and sadness built up in life, lifetimes, lifelines... yet can only be touched and seen and released in this way.

there is also an idea of intertwining and spiraling waves... until next time resonates...

[bluedahlia]

Yeah, such is life. I won't deny it, it isn't ideal. However, it's all for growth, so it's worth it in the end :)

Through the separation, we learn to become completely independent and perfectly happy without them. If we reunite once more, then that's wonderful! If not, life is still fine and dandy without them. The point is to not get attached to outcomes and be happy either way. We can choose to have a blissful relationship with anyone, or be perfectly content being single.

Twins are simply better together though, whether as friends or more. I think we all feel this way deep down (whether we admit it or not). We can be whole and independent on our own, but when we are together, our lives are even more enriched. That's just the way it is.

We don't have a profound connection with everyone we meet, that's the reality and truth. Whether we attach a label or not, whether we are aware or not, whether we want it or not, we all have a twin soul. A being we are deeply compatible with. A being who is our perfect complement. We're the same, yet different. Two individual souls, one unified energy - A unison.

We will reunite harmoniously with our twins though. It is inevitable. Whether it be in this lifetime, the next, or however many lifetimes it may take for us to learn our lessons, or perhaps they are already waiting for us at the border, we will reunite again.

They've been with us all along :)

Also, you're most welcome lunapixie! 💜

Originally Posted by innerlight

It takes more than love to make any relationship work no matter what the connection is. There also has to be a desire for both parties to want to work on making the relationship work and last. Now a days relationships have become more casual than lasting.

I sometimes wonder if the twin flame "doctrine" imposes unnecessary burdens on a nicely developing relationship. You're going along nicely with a guy, realise you have to confess you think he's a twin flame and it not so much scares him off but puts up a barrier. Just sometimes. A guy may be happy enough to hear about soul connections but when told their relationship has been dictated by the "universe" (god) he has to stay with you forever - effectively an eternal marriage. If he interprets that as a religion and doesn't go along with religion then...kapow!

Same as if there's a push to engage in spiritual things he doesn't want. You tell him you're together to help each other grow and evolve. Some men might be ok with that but I'll bet a few aren't.

The same applies to women too, of course. If my current companion suddenly sprung such things on me the parameters would change. I'd suspect proselyting and a hidden agenda.

It's just how people are and why I'll give twin flames a chance only if both are singing from the same song-sheet, are happy about it and could live harmoniously together.

That said at the end of the day, you are you, and they are they. If there are not in a place to make a relationship work no matter what you feel with each other it's not going to last.

Dead on.

And there are others who meet connections and they are already involved with another, and they only become friends. And in some cases the connection is not meant to be an forever thing it was meant for a brief wake up and only meant for a temporary thing.

Or simply, it's possible for women and men just to be friends and perhaps help and support each other in various ways, with no intimacy in the offing.

Good one.

☼

[innerlight]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

I sometimes wonder if the twin flame "doctrine" imposes unnecessary burdens on a nicely developing relationship. You're going along nicely with a guy, realise you have to confess you think he's a twin flame and it not so much scares him off but puts up a barrier. Just sometimes. A guy may be happy enough to hear about soul connections but when told their relationship has been dictated by the "universe" (god) he has to stay with you forever - effectively an eternal marriage. If he interprets that as a religion and doesn't go along with religion then...kapow!

Same as if there's a push to engage in spiritual things he doesn't want. You tell him you're together to help each other grow and evolve. Some men might be ok with that but I'll bet a few aren't.

The same applies to women too, of course. If my current companion suddenly sprung such things on me the parameters would change. I'd suspect proselyting and a hidden agenda.

It's just how people are and why I'll give twin flames a chance only if both are singing from the same song-sheet, are happy about it and could live harmoniously together.

Good one.

☼

I would imagine if anyone drops such a bombshell on someone like, twin flame/soul connection, you might just see a life sized cutout of them in your door. While they high tail it out of there. That just might freak out some people. Not to mention it's a lot of pressure, or even the idea that someone is meant to be with you, or can't be away from them. That's a lot of pressure. If both parties aren't feeling the same thing. It just becomes awkward.

If more there is no exact science to it. There is no, this is fact it's true. You must accept it. It's all just speculation and what what feels for them as being true. We can have connections to people for any reason whatsoever. Karma that needs to be worked out. Or we've spent past lives with someone, and they are familiar to us. Doesn't make them our other halves or twins. It's just someone we know really well. Calling it this or that may just may add unneeded stress to it. I've seen people leave spouses for this connection.

From there is becomes a romanticized notion of love that we place on love and it makes us do all types of crazy stuff. No matter what connection one has to someone isn't going to make any relationship last. I know, I've been there. We are humans first and foremost and our human nature can make anything we do difficult.

[Inika]

Originally Posted by LillyBelle

All of the stories I have ever read about these TFs end up where they always break up. Why? If these people have such a special connection and their souls are so connected then, why do they break up? If the couple really were soulmates or Twin Flames, shouldn't it be something like a fairy tale ending?

I figure a TF would smash the boundaries of physical flesh connection.

where as two souls on similar yet not same journey require physical contact to verify connectedness. A Tf don't.

[bluedahlia]

Originally Posted by Inika

I figure a TF would smash the boundaries of physical flesh connection.

where as two souls on similar yet not same journey require physical contact to verify connectedness. A Tf don't.

This! Physical flesh connection is not of the greatest importance as you feel them with you all the time 💙

[Tortoise Walks]

“Or simply, it's possible for women and men just to be friends and perhaps help and support each other in various ways, with no intimacy in the offing.”

I wonder about this a lot... i would enjoy more authentic connection and friendship with men. I feel that i could experience much inner healing with it. I find that to be a social challenge in my current environment with mostly hetero husbands and wives who may think friendships/connection with opposite sex should be avoided to protect their marriage... just because i am married doesnt mean i have no room in my life for meaningful authentic connection and friendships. In married circles though it seems opportunity for deep authentic friendships don’t easily occur.

I differ on “no intimacy in the offering though...” maybe for you this is specific to sexual intimacy? For me forming relationships is rich with building intimacy quite diverse in its many expressions. Sexual intimacy can also range in exchanging light flirty attention to brighten someones day, creating projects together, or sharing soul joirneys which entails sharing about my full complete self - sexual being potentially included. I dont feel a need or desire to shut off my sexual/creative beingness - regardless of relationship status. I tried that path and discovered it wasnt for me. Also doesnt mean sexual intimacy is a requirement either... I enjoy pondering the potential of invested knowing and intimacy and growing/discovering balance and harmony (interdependence) with those involved with me.

I think the challenging part... especially with Tf type connections is that there is no getting around the energetic intimacy... and if there is physical connection of any kind how to integrate the soulful energetic intimacy? Especially in an acceptable way if there are families and such? Still, taking intimacy off the table to me is kinda impossible. Sure you can choose how to express it and measure it in the world of relationships but the energetic intimacy is palpable whether spoken about or not. Sometimes i think this is what connections like this are about... dissolving how we view intimacy and how it is shared. Allowing authentic loving connections into our lives without fear and a need to control.

[BlueCat]

If both parts don't engage into some spiritual and mental evolution, break free from limitations and obstacles that aren't only physical, some sort of reunion would never happen. If only one does all the work while the other does nothing much, well...they won't stay together (if you mean a romantic partnership, friendship could be possible but it's really hard).

[Elysium]

One Simple Reason:
The whole Twin Flame concept is flawed.

Just because you love someone doesn't mean they love you equally. Just because someone runs from you doesn't mean they're your twin flame. Just because someone runs from ya doesn't mean they're in denial, or that they have special relationships and/or circumstance to fulfill before they reunite with you in your life. Just because you can't let go doesn't mean that there must be a TF label slapped to what could be a simple relationship, and most would find that if they had never heard of the term TF that their life would be much better.