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Old 02-04-2019, 03:59 AM
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I have been reading both Blavatsky and Bailey since the late 1970s, and I was a member of both the Theosophical Society and Lucis Trust in London in the 1980s. For me, the two strands of the teaching complement each other, but AAB's writings (being slightly more recent) are more accessible and relevant. My own impression of the TS is that it had somewhat lost its way in the early 20th century, although I do not question the sincerity of the modern TS.

There is a natural tendency to question the claims of anyone who says that they are in direct contact with the Masters. Certainly all the writings I have read from the past 50 years which are supposed to be from the Masters M, KH or DK are unfortunately rather banal and unconvincing. But The Secret Doctrine is surely not the last word from the Masters. The Bailey books have a depth and consistency which is sadly lacking elsewhere. And at some point we might expect further teachings, but who knows whence such teachings might originate. I am open to the possibility although it may not be during my lifetime.

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I have been reading both Blavatsky and Bailey since the late 1970s, and I was a member of both the Theosophical Society and Lucis Trust in London in the 1980s. For me, the two strands of the teaching complement each other, but AAB's writings (being slightly more recent) are more accessible and relevant. My own impression of the TS is that it had somewhat lost its way in the early 20th century, although I do not question the sincerity of the modern TS.

There is a natural tendency to question the claims of anyone who says that they are in direct contact with the Masters. Certainly all the writings I have read from the past 50 years which are supposed to be from the Masters M, KH or DK are unfortunately rather banal and unconvincing. But The Secret Doctrine is surely not the last word from the Masters. The Bailey books have a depth and consistency which is sadly lacking elsewhere. And at some point we might expect further teachings, but who knows whence such teachings might originate. I am open to the possibility although it may not be during my lifetime.

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Old 02-04-2019, 06:41 PM
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AAB's writings - AAB is a commonly used abbreviation for Alice A. Bailey. She produced 18 books channelled/dictated by the Tibetan Master Djwhal Khul from 1922 onwards, although some were not published until after her death in 1949. There are also various compilations from these 18 books dealing with specific themes. AAB also wrote some books of her own, including The Unfinished Autobiography (although it could be said that all autobiographies are by definition unfinished!).

The Masters M, KH and DK. Blavatsky's teachers were the Master Morya and the Master Koot Hoomi (also spelt Kuthumi). They were responsible for Blavatsky's two major works Isis Unveiled (1877) and The Secret Doctrine (1888). Djwhal Khul (DK) was a disciple of KH who first appears in The Mahatma Letters to AP Sinnett, a newspaper editor in India who had a deep interest in Theosophy.

Blavatsky's writings are difficult reading, full of obscure references. Bailey's writings are much more accessible, although the style and the concepts put forward take a bit of getting used to.

Although Alice Bailey was an amanuensis for Djwhal Khul, she considered Koot Hoomi as her Master. She describes her first encounter with him in 1895:

It was a Sunday morning. The previous Sunday I had heard a sermon which had aroused all my aspiration. This Sunday, for some reason, I had not gone to Church. All the rest of the house-party had gone and there was no one in the house but myself and the servants. I was sitting in the drawing-room reading. The door opened and in walked a tall man dressed in European clothes (very well cut, I remember) but with a turban on his head. He came in and sat down beside me. I was so petrified at the sight of the turban that I could not make a sound or ask what he was doing there. Then he started to talk. He told me there was some work that it was planned that I could do in the world but that it would entail my changing my disposition very considerably; I would have to give up being such an unpleasant little girl and must try and get some measure of self-control. My future usefulness to Him and to the world was dependent upon how I handled myself and the changes I could manage to make. He said that if I could achieve real self-control I could then be trusted and that I would travel all over the world and visit many countries, "doing your Master's work all the time." Those words have rung in my ears ever since. He emphasised that it all depended upon me and what I could do and should do immediately. He added that He would be in touch with me at intervals of several years apart.

In 1918 as a member of the Theosophical Society she realised who this person was, but when she mentioned it to other Theosophists she was not taken seriously.

Her first encounter with Djwhal Khul came later:

It was in November 1919 that I made my first contact with The Tibetan. I had sent the children off to school and thought I would snatch a few minutes to myself and went out on to the hill close to the house. I sat down and began thinking and then suddenly I sat startled and attentive. I heard what I thought was a clear note of music which sounded from the sky, through the hill and in me. Then I heard a voice which said, "There are some books which it is desired should be written for the public. You can write them. Will you do so?" Without a moment's notice I said, "Certainly not. I'm not a darned psychic and I don't want to be drawn into anything like that." I was startled to hear myself speaking out loud. The voice went on to say that wise people did not make snap judgments, that I had a peculiar gift for the higher telepathy and that what I was being asked to do embodied no aspect of the lower psychism. I replied that I didn't care, that I wasn't interested in any work of a psychic nature at all. The unseen person who was speaking so clearly and directly to me then said that he would give me time for consideration; that he would not take my answer then and that he would come back in three weeks' time exactly, to find out what I intended to do.

I then shook myself as if I was awakening from a dream and went home and entirely forgot all about the matter. I never gave it another thought and did not even tell Foster (her husband) about it. During the interval I never remembered it but, sure enough, at the end of three weeks I was spoken to again one evening as I sat in my sitting-room after the children had gone to bed. Again I refused, but the speaker begged me to reconsider and for a couple of weeks, at least, see what I could do. By this time I was getting curious but not in the least convinced. I would try for a couple of weeks or a month and then decide what I felt about it. It was during these few weeks that I got the first chapters of "Initiation, Human and Solar."


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