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Old 15-12-2012, 02:38 AM
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Im sorry I like steak too much to be a herbivore. The way I see it is we r at the top of the food chain, why eat grass?
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Old 15-12-2012, 10:20 AM
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Im sorry I like steak too much to be a herbivore. The way I see it is we r at the top of the food chain, why eat grass?

And if angels ate humans...?

In the spiritual sense, it is the duty of the higher to care for and protect the lower.
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All this talk of religion, but it's how you live your life that is the all-important thing.
If you set out each day to do all the goodness and kindness that you can, and to do no harm to man or beast, then you are walking the highest path.
And when your time is up, if you can leave the earth a better place than you found it, then yours will have been a life well lived.

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Old 15-12-2012, 10:23 AM
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Humans are not naturally vegan. If we were designed to be herbivors then we would not have evolved along the lines we have. Evolution decisively refutes your assertion. We are omnivors... we can eat meat or go vegan as we choose. Whether eating meat or going vegan is healthier remains an open question.

The First Blessing:
And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
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All this talk of religion, but it's how you live your life that is the all-important thing.
If you set out each day to do all the goodness and kindness that you can, and to do no harm to man or beast, then you are walking the highest path.
And when your time is up, if you can leave the earth a better place than you found it, then yours will have been a life well lived.

http://holy-lance.blogspot.com
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:41 PM
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I have one thing to say:

Our digestive systems do poorly with straight up raw meat in large amounts. This is why Homo erectus and Homo sapian used fire to cook the food, enableling us to get more food, with less digestive resources (used less energy to digest).

The fact we cook our food is why our digestive systems dont look 100% carnivore or herbavore, its a hybridization of both, since our ancistors were highly adaptable in their diet.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:23 PM
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Humans are not "naturally" anything .

"Natural" and all these "theories" about it are just that ... to satisfy one's mind seeking cause for the effect of their lives of the only moment there is . Now.

Nothing wrong with them ... nothing right either. They like everything ... simply is.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:50 AM
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The First Blessing:
And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."

Then god went on to kill 2,270,365+ people.... :^)

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/godkills.htm
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:58 AM
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Humans are not naturally vegan. If we were designed to be herbivors then we would not have evolved along the lines we have. Evolution decisively refutes your assertion. We are omnivors... we can eat meat or go vegan as we choose. Whether eating meat or going vegan is healthier remains an open question.
Agreed... Indigenous Eskimos ate roughly 95% animal products... if they had other options they likely would have added them.. but they serve as a guide to just how much animal products could be eaten by a body that's designed such as ours...
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Old 12-01-2013, 06:14 AM
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Agreed... Indigenous Eskimos ate roughly 95% animal products... if they had other options they likely would have added them.. but they serve as a guide to just how much animal products could be eaten by a body that's designed such as ours...
I think the Eskimos didn't have a very long life expectation, I remember reading that somewhere awhile ago ?.
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Old 12-01-2013, 04:11 PM
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I think the Eskimos didn't have a very long life expectation, I remember reading that somewhere awhile ago ?.

Now keeping in mind that I'm referencing the "indigenous" Inuit. Once the more modern western foods (flour, sugar, vegetable oils) entered the stream their health tended to tank. To do so we have to go back a bit and look at those who studied the tribes back-when. One was a guy named Vilhjalmur Stefansson. I'm short on time today so my research can't be more thorough but it seems he documented that they lived as long as 80 to 90 years. (saw a blogger familiar with his work mentioned this)

There was this interesting bit at the bottom of the wikipedia page on Stefansson that seemed relevant to this current discussion. I'll copy and paste that part here.... perhaps tomorrow I'll have more time to explore this a bit further...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilhjalmur_Stefansson

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Old 12-01-2013, 05:53 PM
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I agree with the view that we are build for a little of this and a little of that. A jack of all trades. Just read an article about the possibilities of plants being sentient and that they could recognize their own kin. So maybe as the research progresses we all might be capable of burying the "we are compassionate you are not" argumentation. And just loved this here part

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I find it absolutely fascinating that scientists are finally starting to consider plant sentience a serious possibility. The idea of plant communication is not entirely new, and has been an integral part of some spiritual practices. So, if plants are capable of communicating with each other, and understanding whether those around them are family or not, can they also feel pain? And if they can feel pain, do their relatives hear their screams when they are cooked or eaten? I think the idea of plant sentience may put a whole new perspective on things for some people. It would seem that if plants are capable of the same things as animals (realization and communication), that eating a carrot would be no different than eating a chicken leg, as both come from beings that display awareness. It certainly gives you something to think about.
http://www.greenfudge.org/2009/12/01...cial-behavior/
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