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The Health Implications of Making Gold From Bottle Glass

February 3rd, 2011 · by Ken Rohla · Filed Under: The Quantum Universe

I have a litany of amazing videos and movies that I wish more people could see, some very rare, such as the video Growing Gold: The Quest For Emergent Matter by John V. Milewski, PhD. In the video, Dr. Milewski proves without a shadow of a doubt that monatomic ORMUS elements exist in common bottle glass, by extracting gold and platinum from the glass with a $40 microwave oven and a few simple accessories. So what? What the heck does that mean? Well, if you’ve read this blog or heard me speak anywhere, then you’ve likely heard me talk about ORMUS, aka monatomic elements, aka m-state elements, etc. Monatomic elements are a small select group of metals on the periodic chart that can exist as ceramic powders in which the metal is composed of individual discrete atoms not connected to each other (monatomic), as opposed to the usual form, which is a collection of metal atoms connected to each other in a 3D crystalline grid pattern (polyatomic). They are extremely rejuvenative to living organisms, and they expand or enhance consciousness and awareness. There are many other applications for these elements, including creating nontoxic energy, space travel, and more. The ORMUS elements known publicly so far are: cobalt, nickel, copper, ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, silver, osmium, iridium, platinum, gold, mercury. In their monatomic state, these metals become room temperature superconducting ceramics, that is, they conduct electricity with no resistance. Being a superconductor, they exhibit many “supernatural” properties, such as existing simultaneously in two or more places at once, or under certain circumstances, disappearing from our 3D physical reality into other “dimensions” of reality, then reappearing.

“The discovery of ORMUS elements is today’s equivalent of the discovery of E=MC[2]“

Experiments are showing that these elements exist simultaneously in multiple dimensions, and have many applications in health, space travel, free energy production, water purification, and much more. ORMUS elements are in the human John Milewski, PhDbody, brain, and nervous system, they are where the mind-body connection occurs.

The discovery of ORMUS elements is today’s equivalent of the discovery of E=MC[2], it is that significant, and will be recognized so as more applications evolve. ORMUS is one of the American government’s biggest secrets, research into them often becomes classified. I was very blessed to interview Dr. John Milewski, a materials scientist and ORMUS expert in January 2011. You can listen to this fascinating discussion below.

Interview with John Milewski, PhD (70 Minutes)

http://beyondrawfood.com/blog/the-he...-bottle-glass/

The Profound Importance of Dirt for Your Health and Happiness
June 2nd, 2010 · by Ken Rohla · Filed Under: Beyond Organic Gardening

I have been writing and speaking lately about how the health of all animals on this planet, including us, comes from the soil. Soil is an extremely complex living universe of microorganisms and insects that break down minerals and organic material into nutrients that can be assimilated by plants, and the animals and insects that eat them. It is this life in soil that also creates monatomic elements (ORMUS) that are profoundly healing and regenerative to living organisms, and it heals our water in the later underground stages of water’s hydrological cycle on Earth. The ORMUS elements that are created in healthy living soil act as superconductors that can pick up and resonate the extremely weak magnetic fields and cosmic energies of the planets and celestial bodies around Earth, even at extreme distances, imparting their healing frequencies into the water, rock crystals, microbes, fungus roots (mycelium), and plant roots in soil. ORMUS elements transferred from soil to into our bodies through consumption of plants create superconductivity in the brain, nervous system, and cells. This ORMUS picks up the extremely weak magnetic fields of surrounding planets and celestial bodies, creating many subtle energetic influences including homeopathic and astrological. Cutting-edge physicists are discovering that atoms of monatomic elements exhibit “nonlocality,” that is, the property of being linked and acting identically, no matter how far apart in the cosmos they get, even when light years away from each other. It is what Einstein called “spooky action at a distance,” for which he and others in the past had no explanation. It is this nonlocality that can connect consciousness, as Lynne McTaggart describes in her book, The Field. David Hudson, the most recognized modern rediscoverer of ORMUS, and other scientists, say our brains and nervous systems are made of about 5% monatomic rhodium and iridium. But to get these into our bodies, we must ingest it from the food chain that comes from — DIRT! And now ladies and gentlemen, someone has made a movie about the amazing properties of dirt: Dirt! The Movie, narrated by actress Jamie Lee Curtis.

— Ken Rohla

Do you ever feel imbalances or blockages in your own energies or those around you? Are you sensitive to all the human caused alterations to the planet's natural vibrational frequencies? Do you ever wish there was something to help you stay peaceful, clear and balanced amid all the disruption of modern living?

ORGONITE, based on the principles of Orgone, is a structured matrix of organic and inorganic materials contained within a resin compound. Metals and crystals are combined and suspended in a ratio to modulate energetic frequencies, by neutralizing and attenuating those that are harmful at the mental, physical, emotional and etheric levels.

Ken Rohla: How to Neutralize Radiation and Chemtrails From the Sky with crystals


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yxTotA604M

Thank you, this is a very interesting read, something I shall like to look into more.

cheers Astralyra more info to follow

Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements = Ormus

In the late 1970s an Arizona farmer named David Hudson noticed some very strange materials as he was doing some gold mining on his land. Hudson spent several million dollars over the following decade figuring out how to obtain and work with these strange materials.

DID HUDSON FIND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE?

Since ancient Egyptian times, alchemists have worked in secret to produce something called the Philosopher's Stone, or the Elixir of Life. The materials that Hudson and other researchers have found are believed to be related to the Philosopher's Stone. The materials have been called ORMEs, monoatomic gold, white gold, white powder gold, ORMUS, m-state, AuM, microclusters, and manna.
David Hudson calls the materials he found Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements or ORMEs. He also refers to them as monoatomic elements in a high-spin state.

Since Hudson has patented his process for obtaining and identifying these elements, we would like to suggest that the terms ORMUS and m-state be used when referring to this state of matter.

The ORMUS or m-state materials are thought to be the precious metal elements in a different atomic state. The following elements have been identified in this different state of matter (these elements, with the exception of mercury, are listed in Hudson's patents):

KNOWN ORMUS ELEMENTS
Element Atomic Number
Cobalt 27
Nickel 28
Copper 29
Ruthenium 44
Rhodium 45
Palladium 46
Silver 47
Osmium 76
Iridium 77
Platinum 78
Gold 79
Mercury 80


All of these m-state elements are abundant in sea water. According to David Hudson's discoveries, these elements in their m-state may be as much as 10,000 times more abundant than their metallic counterparts. There also may be other elements which occur naturally in the m-state.

Various researchers, working independently, have identified these materials in this different state of matter. They have arrived at many of the same observations.

These m-state elements have been observed to exhibit superconductivity, superfluidity, Josephson tunneling and magnetic levitation. It looks like these are an entirely new class of materials.

These m-state elements are also present in many biological systems. They may enhance energy flow in the microtubules inside every living cell.

It appears that this state of certain of these elements has been known throughout history. Several of the procedures for extracting or making ORMUS have been adapted from ancient alchemical texts. We believe that the Philosopher's Stone and the Biblical manna are both variations on this state of matter.

THEORIES FROM PHYSICS AND CHEMISTRY ABOUT THE M-STATE ELEMENTS

The following information is presented to promote scientific research into the nature of these materials. Although these theories are based on our best knowledge at this time, further scientific research may prove some of these theories to be inaccurate. Remember that the following are just theories.
A monoatomic element has one atom per molecule; a diatomic element has two atoms per molecule. Certain elements in a monatomic or diatomic configuration can form a stable structure where all of their electrons are Cooper paired, and so are not available as valence electrons (more on this later). Elements in this configuration are superconductors at room temperature and exhibit other quantum physical behaviors at a visible scale. Some of these quantum physical behaviors include:

Anomalous responses to gravity
Superfluidity
"Tunneling" through solid objects
Deformed nuclei in a high-spin state
One term for these materials is microclusters. Microclusters have been described as follows on a microcluster forum:
"A microcluster is a small chemically inert cluster of atoms that has definite crystalline structure. They can be synthetic, however for this work an assumption is that the natural microclusters are forms comparable to the man-made microcluster. Microcluster research started with natural occurrences. Clusters exist as molecular species which can substitute and mimic various elements for one another. Microclusters can be as large as 200 or more atoms. Certain atomic examples for each atom are rare; the rarity is due to current physical chemistry concepts. Research has demonstrated that natural micro-clusters are superconductors; they are Cheshire in that they can disappear and avoid chemical detection by conventional means. Most, if not all, have catalytic properties; they are magnetic or can be induced to have electromagnetic properties; and they can form giant inert ions which I call Mega-ions."
ORMUS AND BECs

Physicists have recently created a new state of matter (which we believe is related to ORMUS) in the laboratory. This state of matter is called a Bose-Einstein Condensate (BEC) after Satyendra Nath Bose and Albert Einstein who postulated the existence of this state of matter in the 1920s. Their theory was not "proven" until BECs were created in the laboratory in 1995 by Eric Cornell and Carl Wieman in Boulder, Colorado. They did it by cooling atoms to a much lower temperature than had been previously achieved. This temperature was a millionth of a degree above absolute zero.
Absolute zero is the temperature at which all atomic movement ceases. When atoms are cooled near absolute zero, they move much more slowly than when they are at normal temperatures. David Hudson postulates that his ORME atoms have a natural internal temperature which is very close to absolute zero. This may be why they can be Bose-Einstein condensates at room temperature and higher.

A Bose-Einstein Condensate is a group of atoms which are all in the same quantum state. Such a group of atoms consequently behaves, in some ways, as a single atom. Superconductors are a form of BECs and so are superfluids.

You can read a simple description of what BECs are and how they work on the BEC homepage.

Here is an explanation of how BECs, superconductors and Cooper pairing inter-relate from the American Institute of Physics web page titled BECs, superconductors, and Cooper pairing:

"A superfluid is a liquid that flows without viscosity or inner friction. For a liquid to become superfluid, the atoms or molecules making up the liquid must be cooled or "condensed" to the point at which they all occupy the same quantum state. A liquid of helium-3, an atom whose nucleus is made up of an odd number of particles, is a type of particle known as a fermion. Groups of fermions are not allowed to occupy the same quantum state."
"By cooling the liquid to a low enough temperature, helium-3 atoms can pair up. The number of particles in each nucleus adds up to an even number, making it a type of particle known as a boson. Groups of bosons can fall into the same quantum state, and therefore superfluidity can be achieved. Helium-4 (middle panel), a boson, does not need to pair up to form a superfluid; groups of helium-4 atoms condense into the superfluid state at about 2 degrees above absolute zero. Superfluidity, especially the kind that exists in helium-3, is analogous to conventional low-temperature superconductivity, in which electrons flow through certain metals and alloys without resistance. In a superconductor (right panel), electrons, which are fermions, pair up in the metal crystal to form "Cooper pairs," bosons which can then condense into a superconducting state."

THE DIATOMIC NATURE OF SOME M-STATE MATERIALS

The following elements, which are known to have an m-state, have an odd number of electrons and protons:
Cobalt
Copper
Rhodium
Silver
Iridium
Gold
In order for these atoms to be superconductors in the m-state, they must be at least diatoms.
The m-state of gold and other precious elements is different from the metallic state of these same elements. For example ingesting m-state gold has different effects on the body than the effects of ingesting metallic gold. What makes the ORMUS state atoms different is that they will not form metal-metal bonds with their own kind.

They won't form metal-metal bonds because their valence electrons are not available to form normal molecular bonds. This is because each electron is paired up with another electron in a Cooper paired state. When electrons are Cooper paired, they cease to behave as particles and begin to behave more like light.

Since you must have an even number of electrons in order for every electron to pair up with another electron, you cannot have the m-state of any element which has an odd number of electrons without having at least two of these atoms paired up.

For example, iridium has an atomic number of 77. This means that iridium has 77 electrons. 76 of these electrons could pair up but that would still leave one electron available for bonding with another atom in a compound. But if you had two atoms of iridium with mingled nuclei and electron clouds you would have 154 electrons. Since 154 is an even number, all of these electrons can pair up into 77 Cooper pairs. Nucleons also pair up in the same way to form superconductors.

All known superconductors involve this kind of Cooper pairing.

Please realize that as a Bose-Einstein condensate, both atoms in the diatom will behave as one atom. They also resonance couple with other diatoms of the same element which are nearby. This resonance-coupled quantum oscillation is another of the definitions of superconductivity.

As you use chemistry to move a metal toward the ORMUS/BEC state, the chemical reactions necessary to do this moving become weaker and weaker since fewer and fewer of the valence electrons are available to participate in the chemical reactions. Eventually there are no electron handles that can be used to manipulate these materials. Fortunately these materials have other properties which can be used to manipulate them.

Since they are superconductors, they can be manipulated by magnetic fields. For example, if you shield them from magnetic fields during boiling processes, you will be able to conserve more of them in your liquid since they will not be impelled to tunnel out of your container or go off as a gas.

They can also be manipulated by providing them with a comfy "box" to hide out in. The ORMUS/BECs seem to "like" tight spaces. Ring molecules such as the tri-sodium ring or the diozone ring can provide a chemical "box" with handles. Salt and sodium, in particular, seem to stabilize the ORMUS materials, theoretically by forming a triangular structure or box around the precious element atom. Though you cannot get a chemical handle on the fully Cooper paired ORMUS atoms, you can entice them into a chemical box with handles and then manipulate the box using fairly standard physical and chemical methods.

So, although these elements are the same as the "heavy metal" elements, they are not in a metallic state and as long as the m-state of these elements is present in sufficient amounts, the metallic portion seems to "borrow" the properties of the m-state.

BECs are also known to have the ability to "tunnel" across impenetrable barriers. Professor Brian D. Josephson of the Theory of Condensed Matter Group of the Cavendish Laboratory, Cambridge (i.e. the Physics Department of the University of Cambridge) received the Nobel Prize in physics for his discovery of the tunneling phenomenon. Dr. Josephson is currently working on something called the Mind-Matter Unification Project.

ORMUS AND MICROTUBULES

Other physicists are also working on theories which unite mind and matter.
One fairly recent discovery in biology and physics is that a certain small structure in every cell, called the microtubule, exhibits superconductive and tunneling behaviors at body temperature.

You can read more about the quantum properties of microtubules from links on Rhett Savage's Quantum Brain web page.

And on several of Matti Pitkanen's web pages:

Exotic atoms and a mechanism for superconductivity in biosystems
Negentropy Maximization Principle and TGD Inspired Theory of Consciousness

TGD:eish model for the EEG and generation of nerve pulse

One of the problems with modern quantum physical theories is that there is no way to logically connect the Bose-Einstein condensates, which have been demonstrated to exist in small groups of atoms at a millionth of a degree above absolute zero, with the BEC like behavior of microtubules at body temperature in living cells. ORMUS materials would make this connection.
Several of the modern theories relating to microtubules were proposed by Roger Penrose (a physicist) and Stuart Hameroff (an anesthesiologist).

Here we will quote from an anonymous scientist who has explained Penrose and Hameroff's theory quite elegantly:

"Penrose has been seeking a better way to explain the fantastic computational power of the brain and Hameroff has been seeking the source of consciousness. The two heard of each other and got together to find that they both sought a common structure, the microtubule.
"Penrose sought a structure in the brain that had nanometer dimensions because such a structure would be necessary to support quantum effects. Hameroff sought the structure responsible for consciousness. They agreed that the microtubules would provide for both.

"Mictotubules are tiny tubular structures within neurons that are made from two forms of tubulin. The two forms can be switched by tiny electric currents, so Penrose has proposed that the tubulin units may be the on/off switches for the brain's data processing. I agree with this proposal because it allows us to be what we are by increasing our potential processing rate from from an unacceptable 10 Exp11 operations per second (OPS) to a reasonably acceptable 10 Exp24 OPS. Penrose explains all this quite well and I recommend him to all who would like to have a deeper understanding of our minds.

"Hameroff has done a lot of research into how consciousness works and he has concluded that the microtubules are the source of our consciousness. This is discussed in and supported by Penrose’s work. Hameroff has concluded that the observable quantum effects that occur in human brains are caused by highly aligned water that is inside the microtubules. Penrose agrees with this concept and further argues that Bose- Einstein Condensations (BECs) in the neurons are how we reach decisions. The BECs are possible because the water inside the microtubules can be strongly aligned to form a high-temperature superconductive medium.

"This concept supports my thinking very well. BECs provide an explanation for all the effects I refer to as psionics. These effects include: telepathy, remote viewing, bilocation, telekinesis, and astral travel. A BEC in the Broca area of the brain would allow thoughts to exist inside the brain and outside the head at the same time. This can explain both telepathy and how it is controlled. Likewise, a BEC in the visual processing areas would explain remote viewing. Since microtubules exist in all neurons and neurons extend into all parts of the body, a BEC including all neurons would allow the body to exist in two (or more) places at the same time, thus explaining bilocation.

"With this discovery, all psionics can be explained in modern physical terms. This opens the whole field of psionics to persons like myself who have had so much technical training that it is impossible to accept psionics. This discovery means that all the formal training I've had in Chemistry, Math, and Physics still applies and can even help explain psionics. For me, it is good to know that all these topics can exist peacefully together."

For more information on "psychic" observations of these materials see:
Paranormal Observations of ORMEs Atomic Structure
http://zz.com/WhiteGoldWeb/ozone1.htm
In a paper titled "Orchestrated reduction of quantum coherence in brain microtubules: A model for consciousness" (Hameroff/Penrose site at U. of Arizona), Hameroff and Penrose write:
"A critical number of tubulins maintaining coherence within [microtubules] for 500 msec collapses its own wave function (objective reduction: OR). This occurs because the mass-energy difference among the superpositioned states of coherent tubulins critically perturbs space-time geometry. To prevent multiple universes, the system must reduce to a single space-time by choosing eigenstates."
Hameroff and Penrose are saying that in order to avoid "seeing" multiple universes at the same time, the quantum coherence created in microtubules by some material (we think the m-state materials) must collapse. What if the quantum coherence did not collapse and we became aware of multiple universes?
Many modern physicists believe that there are an infinite number of parallel universes. They theorize that atoms are made up of smaller particles which are like bubbles in the quantum foam. These bubbles in the quantum foam or "holes in the aether" spend a fraction of their existence in each of these parallel universes. There is quite a debate as to whether information is transferred between these parallel universes. You can read a bit about this debate at:

Braintennis
http://www.hotwired.com/synapse/brai...1/index0a.html
This concept of multiple or parallel universes has been a recurring theme in science fiction for at least 60 years. It is also one of the key concepts of modern mystical thought. It first appeared as a mystical concept in The 'Unknown' Reality by Jane Roberts which was dictated by Seth in 1974-75.

SOME TESTS FOR M-STATE

M-state material, in a wet precipitate form, will dissolve in HCl. M-state material, in a dry powder form, will not dissolve in HCl or aqua regia.
Because m-state is a superconductor, rotating a magnet under some of the dry powder m-state elements will cause the powder to fly away from the magnet.

What is Ormus?

A group of essential minerals previously unknown to modern science.

Why were they unknown?
Because they did not show up in common scientific tests.

What kind of minerals?
Minerals like gold, silver and platinum — but they are in a different form; and in this other form, they are not toxic. We are discovering they are very common in plants, animals, air, soil and water.


How is it beneficial?

It appears to assist communication between cells in the body and between the body and spirit.

Plants / Agriculture

Seeds and plants given the Ormus material have shown more vigor, tolerance to transplanting and drought conditions as well as increased resistance to disease and insects. They demonstrate a shortened growing cycle and increased crop yield. They have also produced larger fruit with a longer shelf life, and some have said contain an increase in mineral and vitamin content. Similar benefits have occurred with plants grown for flowers.

Animals

Testing has shown that animals benefit from whole sea solids (Sea-Crop,®). More stamina may be observed and this may lead to decreased mortality, decreased infection and increased weight. Since "Reconstituted" sea (or "drawn" seawater) is a source material in the Ormus collection processes, these benefits are presumed to apply to animals that have been given Ormus.

Humans

The following observations have been reported after Ormus supplementation in humans: rejuvenation, mental clarity, a sense of calmness, increased intuitive powers, insightfulness and a feeling of being connected to a higher state of awareness.

Life appears enabled to reach a fuller measure of its biological potential!

(These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration nor are they intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease.)

A belief held by many is that the Ormus material raises the consciousness through the feeding of the "light" body so it may grow and become what it is meant to be. In this way, enlightenment has occurred. The nature of man changes and things that have "value" now are no longer important. It may be that this action, attributed to Ormus, could change the world more than anything in the last 2,000 years!

For these reasons, it has been said that Ormus seems to affect a person spiritually, mentally and physically.

The ORMUS elements are the precious metal elements in a natural non-metallic form. In this form they are much more common than they are in their metallic form.

The ORMUS materials can be extracted from the air, water, rock, soil and food. These materials are believed to have been used throughout the centuries for the advancement of physical and spiritual well-being by the ancient Egyptian, Persian, Hindu and Chinese alchemists, King Solomon, the Essenes and the alchemists of the Middle Ages.

The ORMUS materials may be the substances which have been called manna, shewbread, chi, prana, the Philosopher's Stone, shemanna and the Fountain of Youth. Some people who have been ingesting the ORMUS materials report amazing improvements in physical and psychic conditions. There is strong evidence that the ORMUS elements are nutritional minerals which are essential to all life. Many modern agricultural and food processing techniques appear to reduce the ORMUS elements in our food.

There are many amazing stories about the ORMUS materials and the people who have been researching them. These include stories about ectoplasm like phenomena, levitation, kundalini awakening, past lives and communication with the ORMUS materials themselves.

Our mission is to share ways in which these substances, which are freely available in nature, can be extracted and used to improve the human condition.

Plants don’t lie! This tree after fed with Ormus (manna).
Walnut trees grown using Ormus (termed C-11) collected from Pacific Ocean water as a supplement. Five walnut trees of approximate age and size were purchased from the same nursery at the same time. Once transplanted, one of these five seedlings received a one-time supplement of two cups C-11 diluted in five gallons fresh water. In addition, several applications of wash water from the third rinsing that is performed while collecting C-11 has been given to the tree.

The tree which received C-11 is toward the right in the picture below and one of the trees which got no C-11 is on the left

The smaller tree is about five feet tall and the larger tree is about ten feet tall. These trees all grew in a dry interior climate at around 1000 feet elevation near the 49th parallel.

This one tree has consistently yielded the same volume of nuts in their shells as the combined yield of three fifteen-year old trees and four other three-year old trees. These pictures were taken on October 5, 2000

Four walnuts from these trees: Nuts inside the shells are proportionally larger than their ordinary counterparts. Their taste is comparable.

The walnuts on the left are from the trees that did not receive C-11. The walnuts on the right are from the largest tree that received the most C-11 and they are approximately 2 1/2 inches in diameter.

Un-hulled walnuts still on the tree (seven feet up in the tree) with a man's hand in the image for size comparison. The size of the walnuts is approximately that of a mid-range apple.

Ormus is a material that has been discovered (or maybe a better word is say re-discovered) by David Hudson in the 1970”s. The content of many of David Hudson’s lectures, where he outlines his findings, can be found on the Internet. (One site is subtleenergies.com.)

The Ormus material is very common in plants, animals, air, soil, rocks and water.

Ormus has some characteristics that are fascinating such as “superconductivity”, “superfluidity”, “Josephson tunneling” and “magnetic levitation.” It also appears to assist communication between cells in the body and between the body and spirit. (David Hudson transcripts).

It is exciting to think that if only a small percentage, maybe 10%, of what has been postulated or observed about Ormus proves out, this material may well be one of the greatest discoveries in human history!

GMOs & Ormus * Where To Find Ormus * How To Make Ormus






http://youtu.be/8ouL_PSc_uY

Answered by Don Nance, a commercial alchemist and lifetime member of the International Alchemy Guild.

Q: Can I use seawater that has been drawn up from 35 feet below the surface for use in the "Wet Process?"

Don: Yes…though it is best to stay far away from shipping lanes -perhaps as much as 2 miles. The areas around marinas are also avoided. . The focus is to have clean seawater taken at mid-depth (between the surface and the sea floor) and the deeper the better.

Chris: "…Depending on the geographical area, a good depth to collect ocean water is between 50 to 100 feet. Seawater is not drawn from the top waters because pollution generally stays in the top 25 feet of the water and sunlight filtering through the top waters is thought to drive Ormus away. Therefore, do not collect seawater from the top waters of the sea and do not collect ocean water any closer than 32 feet from the bottom as organic pollutants are near the bottom…" (Ormus: Modern Day Alchemy Primer of Ormus Collection Processes Reference Edition)

Q: I can't get on the ocean but want seawater for use in a "Wet Process." Do I have any options?

Don: Yes. Use a natural sea salt to reconstitute seawater. This is explained in the book. Celtic Grey salt makes an excellent Manna. You can also use Masada brand Dead Sea salt. You can use Great Salt Lake water as sold by Trace Minerals Research as "Pure Inland Seawater" and is available at places like the Vitamin Shoppe, etc. "Pure Inland Seawater" water should be diluted (with distilled water) 1:1 before use because it is double concentrated as sold.

Chris: Petco.com sells Real Ocean Water item # 910058 in a 5 gallon container. This is a product of the Catalina Water Company and is discussed in the book.

Q: Which is better: Dead Sea salt or drawn Seawater to use in a "Wet Process?"

Don: Neither is better. They are different sources and therefore give a different ratio of the M-state elements. The Atlantic Ocean Manna is different than that made from Pacific Ocean water which is different from than that made from Great Salt Lake water, etc.

Q: I would like to ask you how much Ocean Water you process at a time. Do you perform a process by the Gallons or just enough for a few weeks?

Don: I make manna on-demand so I tend to work with at least a gallon at a time. However, if you are alone or have a smaller family then you may choose to just use a quart at a time. Each source gives us a different yield so experimentation with your chosen source should be your teacher.

Q: I am curious how the name Ormus was chosen for this material. A story in Wikipedia says there was an ancient society near the Persian Gulf called Ormus. Is there any connection between this society and the name chosen for the book "Ormus: Modern Day alchemy?"

Don: I cannot see any connection. The term ORME was first used to describe the M-state elements by David Hudson. In His patent application, he named them "O.R.M.E.:" "orbitally rearranged monatomic element." Over the decades, other names, such as ORMUS, have evolved, due in part to cause no infringement on the David Hudson patent applications. I usually call them M-state or Manna.

Q: How Long is the "Wet Process" going to take?

Don: The actual precipitation step usually takes me about an hour once I begin stirring. You would want to go slower until you gain some experience. Then the wash steps take a minimum of 24 hours each if you want to have a good separation. Again the time a precipitation step takes depends largely upon your chosen starting source material.

Q: When I receive my copy of Ormus: Modern Day Alchemy, I want to "hit the deck running" so, what supplies can I already have ready?

Don: A pH meter or fresh pH paper. You would be best served by a pH meter such as a Hanna Checker that sells for about $40 on the internet. (You will need calibration solutions of pH 7.01 and pH 10.01)
1 pound of sodium hydroxide powder (NaOH) or crystals (preferably food grade)
Some distilled water from a supermarket…3 gallons should be enough.
1 gallon of distilled white vinegar for cleaning your utensils.
Some seawater or a good sea salt. (Do not choose any salt that has anti-caking agents, coloring or perfume added.)
One or two 1-quart Pyrex or equivalent measuring cups.
A plastic stirring utensil. This may include spatulas, spoons, etc.
(1) 1-cup measuring cup and assorted size non-metallic measuring spoons for measuring your NaOH material and sea salt.
(1) 1-quart (or larger) measuring cup for performing the precipitation and wash steps. This can be made of HDPE plastic or glass. The use of lead crystal glass is SERIOUSLY not recommended (this is discussed in our book). The safest material to use would be HDPE plastic. Plastic buckets are readily available from paint suppliers in sizes from 1 gallon to 5 gallons.
(1) 1-gallon (larger or smaller) container if storing unused boiled & filtered seawater. This can be HDPE plastic or glass.
Note: If you wish to store larger amounts of raw seawater this is best done by adding a ratio of 5 ml of 35% Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) to each gallon of raw seawater (see note from Chris below). This way, you can store a large amount and just boil and filter it as you need to use it. This is especially helpful to those people that do not live near the oceans. Now you can bring a few hundred gallons home from vacation! ;-)

Chris: The measurement conversion for 5 ml is 1 tsp. Use a measuring device that doesn't have to be completely filled or have to be held during the pouring of Hydrogen Peroxide. For example, choose a medicine cup that is calibrated in tsp or ml and be sure to follow the Hydrogen Peroxide cautions listed on page 110 of Ormus: Modern Day Alchemy.

Q: "I can't wait to begin so I am going to the hardware store and buy Litmus test papers to test the PH…"

Don: I still recommend spending the $40 for a pH meter. They are MUCH more accurate than litmus paper. Actually, litmus paper is used as a rough indicator of acidity or alkalinity and the readings are affected by temperature. To arrive at more accurate readings, "pH paper" which covers the desired pH range would be chosen and this is more expensive than litmus paper. Consequently the price will quickly exceed the price of a $40.00 pH meter as one continues to perform the Ormus collection Processes. Therefore, I suggest you order a pH meter and wait the necessary amount of time for it to arrive at your door! (Chris: A note regarding time from page 3 of the book "…"time" is spoken of in this manner: the real time is that time which it takes … that time which IS…")

Q: Where do I buy Lye (Sodium Hydroxide, NaOH)?

Don: You can buy food grade "lye" on the Internet or from any local chemical supply house. We use sodium hydroxide (NaOH) which Americans call "lye". Sources of lye/NaOH are also listed in Appendix I of the book.

Q: I am concerned about the use of the lye chemical in a product that I may ingest…

Don: Lye is the strongest of alkalis and dangerous in concentrated solutions, however the "chemical" itself does not contain toxic ingredients. It contains sodium (Na), just like table salt does and a hydroxyl group (OH) just as occurs when Baking Soda is dissolved in water. Both chemicals are alkaline; Lye is just a stronger alkali than baking soda… As we perform the pH swing, the sodium hydroxide solution donates the hydroxyl group allowing the M-state/Ormus elements to form insoluble hydroxides which comprise the fluffy white precipitate that we see. If you do not overshoot the target pH of 10.5 or so (this is described in the book), then all of the "lye" is used up in making the precipitate and is no longer active. It is no longer "lye." You could actually eat the Manna at that point but the Wet Process Materials taste too acrid and the Dry Process materials taste too salty. The wash steps are mostly to remove any water-soluble materials (like the excess salt and any unused hydroxides). These are gone after the first wash. This is explained in the book in the Chemistry chapter (Appendix XXII).

Chris: Now, you must know how lye is routinely used during the preparation of many types of foods. For example: Lutefisk, green olives, hominy, lye rolls, century eggs, pretzels, zongzi (Chinese glutinous rice dumplings) and Chinese noodles. In addition, it is used when making lye bagels and soft German pretzels.) Lye is also used for making pH adjustments to many foods and sauces and pH adjustment is precisely what we use it for. It is in no way toxic. You eat and drink hydroxides and acids daily. You can prove it to yourself by putting your pH meter to work and looking at the pH of your foods and drinks.

Q: Another question comes to mind regarding the strength of the Lye solution. Seems like there are people doing it differently than what the document explains at Barry's Subtleenergies.com Site.

Don: If everyone uses the same strength of solutions, it is easier for us to diagnose what may have gone wrong when someone runs into a problem. For the processes detailed in the book, a 1:8 strength works very, very well. That is ½ cup of lye (NaOH) crystals mixed as described in the book into 1 quart of distilled water. This would be about 125 grams per liter of water in the metric system.

Q: I have been asking about washing the precipitate after performing a "Wet Process". I wash mine very well however, I like a little salty taste to mine and that just isn't there after repeated washing. I thought that I have heard that at least 2 washings are done on the precipitate

Don: Once the reactions are done and the initial precipitate has settled, the only reason to wash the precipitate is to remove any excess salt and hydroxyls that are left from the NaOH solution. If you are concerned about the NaOH you can wash the precipitate three times and then add some grains of sea salt as described in the book. Or you can read the answer to the next question below.

Q: I have Another question about washing: I have heard that sometimes no washing is done if sending the precipitate (the Ormus manna) collected during the "Wet process" overseas.

Don: If I am going to ship the manna, I will separate the precipitate as described in the book and wash it one time by adding three times as much distilled water as precipitate by volume. That is, if I have 100 ml. of precipitate I will add 300 ml. of water, stir well to mix, let it settle and then I separate the manna again and add more water to reduce its thickness for easier swallowing. The salt left in it seems to really add stability but there is not so much of it that it tastes unpleasant. Many ICP assays have shown that there are no toxins present in the finished products.

Q: I have been looking for a propane turkey ring burner with a double ring of flame as my heat source for the collection processes that cause a burn. This item is hard for me to find.

Chris: Bayou Classic sells many ring burners. The one with a double ring of flame, called a high/low is Bayou Classic SQ14.

Q: I have been looking for some GSL (Great Salt Lake) minerals so I can make some White Dove. I have the Back Sand so now I need some GSL Minerals. Do you know of a source?

Don: I invented the White Dove as a result of my understanding of the M-state elements, processes and after studying the ancient alchemy of several cultures for more than 10 years. If you know these materials then making the Dove is no biggie but it was intended to be a proprietary Manna so that I have some chance of staying in business while still teaching people these things that were previously secrets and knowing all along that many of these people would become direct competitors. If you have THE black sand (and that material is not common magnetite) then you can make an excellent Manna from it by following the processes in the book.

The Salt Lake water question has been answered earlier on the FAQ page.

Q: What is the use of Hydrogen in the Ormus processes?

Don: The main use for Hydrogen is the hydrochloric acid solution that we use for reducing the pH during the Dry Method Process. David Hudson has postulated that his O.R.M.E. elements form bonds with hydrogen but that is theoretical at this point. We will know more during the coming year as this is one of the focal points of my research. Also, David Hudson's process was mostly one of using concentrated acids on the pure Platinum group metals and the Noble metals of Gold, Silver and Copper. I have performed those processes and believe me, they are way beyond the difficulty of even the most difficult processes in this book. Once you have Mastered all of the processes in our book you *might* then be ready to perform the David Hudson Australian Patent process that is available on the Internet.

Q: The subtleenergies.com website describes informative and easy to follow methods of Ormus collection. I am wondering how we know that the material collected is the same natural altered state that David Hudson found.

Don: The term "Ormus" is currently being used to describe a wide variety of products made from an equally wide variety of methods. The processes listed in our book produce gold, silver, copper, and platinum group elements in the M-state that do not assay to be there. They are invisible to normal spectrographic analysis, ie; they are "stealth atoms" and I have personally reduced them to their metallic form of gold, silver, copper and platinum group metals that DO assay to be what they are.

The actual certified assays are on the subtleenergies.com web site showing the assays of the starting material, the M-state (Manna) form and the "tortured" form where I had forced the M-state back to metal in order to prove what was in the Manna. I show gold nuggets and a platinum group coated electrode at my workshops and lectures. The proof is in the pudding ;-)

The only debate at this point is how these elements are actually forming bonds during the various processes. As stated above, David Hudson says that his concentrated acid process yields, using gold as the example, Hydrogen Auride. This means that the hydrogen atom has been taken to the 1- state and is now the H- ion and the monatomic gold ion (Au+) bonds with it. However, the Essene says that the M-state gold is tied to sodium. And arguments in favor of this opinion are that the sodium shows up in the assays and that solid state physics has proven that stable compounds of NaAu (sodium-gold) exist.

My opinion is that BOTH are happening simultaneously. The sodium is very likely decomposing to provide electrons for the H- state and the very same sodium ion may then be forming with one half of a diatom of Au while the H- ion bonds with the other half of the Au diatom that has simultaneously been split apart from itself, that is, the two atoms of gold are no longer a single diatom of gold but are now two monatoms with one attached to H- and the other to Na. I have devised an experiment that should tell us whether my opinion holds salt or not. :

It has been my experience to notice that Mother Nature makes use of any and all possibilities as she moves her perfections toward a higher vibratory frequency. So, if she can find a way it will be so.

Another thing to make note of is that not all of the processes listed on the Internet have been proven. In fact most of them have not been proven. You would be surprised to learn that many makers of so-called "Ormus " products have never had their own products assayed and have never taken them to their metallic form in order to prove or even understand what they themselves are providing. Some are even simply whispering the word "Ormus" while standing over distilled water and selling it as "Ormus."

If you stick to the processes in the book you can be assured of what you are getting. My research and thousands of dollars spent for certified assays speak for themselves. Again, the proof really IS in the pudding.

I hope you have found this information interesting if not useful! It has been said that the very best Manna is that which you make yourself! Just be patient and be careful with your pH adjustments and you will discover the magic of the "Spirit Matter."