The devil, lucifer, satan.....

Originally Posted by Bluegreen

Satan is only a word used to represent something. But since it, entity or metaphor, does not exist as you say: there is no matter; there is no law of cause and effect; there is no duality and therefore neither is there Spirit.

Bluegreen, how do you come to that conclusion? What does the word/entity/metaphor "Satan" have to do with the Law of Cause and Effect, matter or Spirit?

Originally Posted by Juanita

Bluegreen, how do you come to that conclusion? What does the word/entity/metaphor "Satan" have to do with the Law of Cause and Effect, matter or Spirit?

Satan is just another word for matter, karma, duality.

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense to me whatsoever.....

[magonia]

It is interesting how peoples perceptions and understanding differ as to the nature of what Satan, Devil and Lucifer are. Could be a mixture of all things?

[Amilius777]

I wouldn't say Satan is mAtter . Matter is spirit vibrating at a lower level or spirit frozen.

Satan would be the force of separation. Satan began as an angel or pure energy co creating with the Source. But this Energy was made the greatest in God's Administratin of spiritual forces. Satan was originally the useful negative force but misuse his free will and went rampant and has creating confusing thoughtforms and patterns in creation.

Anytime someone brings you down or say something nasy it is a negative vibration of Satan. If someone has mental illness it is a mental reflection of Satan. Bad things happening in your life are of Satan but you must use them to grow. Murderers and violent sickos wreaking havoc is when the Evil energy or Satan gets out of control and the forces of light must counterbalance and keep It down. Just look at evil spirits they are stuck in lower realms because the Arcangels have kept the Evil Consciousness out of higher planes. The can only dwell in low dives and planes of darkness.

Originally Posted by Juanita

Sorry but I do not believe in such things as devils, demons. Satan, or Lucifer....There is no evil in the heavenly realms......no fallen angels either....

I agree. If god is omnipresent then why would he not pervade the darkness that seems to be without god? Nothing can escape the true god that is the creator of universes. Anything that is selfish enough to go against that is certainly not going to live very long let alone rule over earth.

[Thoth]

Lucifer is temptation. For souls to grow, it needs to overcome temptations. That means we NEED Lucifer in our spiritual journey. Without Lucifer, we cannot grow stronger.