'ISness"

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by sound

The isness of nowness
And water is wet
My head is imploding
The unwiser I get

Hehe I think my head has imploded so much that I cant put a simply rhyme together. Or maybe thats just down to the weather.

Hehe thats the best I can come up with!

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi

Greetings..

There was once a thread called "ISness"
It took-off like nobody's business
Then they all said
the thread would be dead
For Truth instead was their fondness..

I find 'isness' to have less baggage and attachment than 'Truth', describing a situation that 'is'.. as in: water 'is' wet..

Be well..

Hi Tzu,
Nice thread.
When I read it, what comes to my mind is that I can sense within myself a 'wish' of sorts that when I dip my hand in water, that I would have no word, such as wet, to describe the feeling.
James

Greetings..

The Sky.. IS.. up, blue, has clouds in it, birds fly in it, rain falls from it.. etc..

When.. IS.. dinner going to be ready, the game starting, there going to peace, it my turn.. etc..

"Is", is the enabler, the meaning, the context and texture..

Be well..

[andrew g]

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi

Greetings..

"Is", is the enabler, the meaning, the context and texture..

Be well..

Yes .

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi

Greetings..

"Is", is the enabler, the meaning, the context and texture..

Be well..

Do you, Tzu, feel that it is necessary to 'realize' that or 'know' that or 'recognize' that, for it to be so?

Greetings..

Originally Posted by WhiteShaman

Do you, Tzu, feel that it is necessary to realize that or know that or recognize that, for it to be so?

Hi WS: not really, we are much more capable than our penchant for making things sound important implies.. life and existence 'is' beautifully simple.. or, someone else's 'enabler' might enable them to experience it quite a bit differently.. but, to answer your question, no..

Be well..

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi

Greetings..


Hi WS: not really, we are much more capable than our penchant for making things sound important implies.. life and existence 'is' beautifully simple.. or, someone else's 'enabler' might enable them to experience it quite a bit differently.. but, to answer your question, no..

Be well..

Thanks.
Am I correct in saying that what you are saying in these recent posts is that we are the space (isness) that allows the sky to be blue to us and that it doesn't have to be known or not be known why it is blue of if it is blue unless the space that is we chooses to.

Greetings..

Originally Posted by WhiteShaman

Thanks.
Am I correct in saying that what you are saying in these recent posts is that we are the space (isness) that allows the sky to be blue to us and that it doesn't have to be known or not be known why it is blue of if it is blue unless the space that is we chooses to.

I'm sorry, WS, that's deeper than i am.. i don't know how to answer the question..

Be well..

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi

Greetings..

I'm sorry, WS, that's deeper than i am.. i don't know how to answer the question..

Be well..

Ha!......No, actually, I am just trying to read between your words and 'get' what you are saying at that level and I obviously misread. There was no depth to it unless there was and you would know, not me.
I guess I'll have to be content not 'getting' what this whole 'isness' thing for you is.
Thanks........James

Greetings..

Originally Posted by WhiteShaman

Ha!......No, actually, I am just trying to read between your words and 'get' what you are saying at that level and I obviously misread. There was no depth to it unless there was and you would know, not me.
I guess I'll have to be content not 'getting' what this whole 'isness' thing for you is.
Thanks........James

Hi WS: it's very simple.. you seem to be looking for complex or profound.. but, it's not.. "It is what it IS".. and that's it..

Be well..