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Old 19-08-2017, 06:33 PM
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Well... trying to lump the Christ into Nonduality is like mixing good wine with water .

But hey, we all need to eat and drink.

The first shall be last and the last shall be first. Is it an attitude thing or shedding light on the line up to the fountain?
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Well... trying to lump the Christ into Nonduality is like mixing good wine with water .

But hey, we all need to eat and drink.

The first shall be last and the last shall be first. Is it an attitude thing or shedding light on the line up to the fountain?
Yeh, Nowayout,

It's a bit of a stretch in a non-dual forum, but still valid.

Besides, all those tannins do eventually come out in the wash.

Meanwhile...It's not so much an 'attitude thing', as it is a relative point-of-view thing,
including as you mention, the classic inventory management strategies FILO, LIFO.
In the Buddhist forum we could talk about FIFO ;-)


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Old Yesterday, 05:57 PM
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A relative point of view, that's what we all are.

The thing that speaks to me around the Christ, I was raised this way but anyway, there is an important "divinity" in the Christ. Risen from the dead, if you can bend around that, and alive, acting in Christians through the Holy Spirit.

It's not just about devotion...Jesus came back from the dead man.

Where does no duality go with that?

Personally, I wonder too about the risen Christ, keeping an open mind. Nothing against non-duality, but to be fair to all players lets be a little aware of the true faith of Christians.

A Christian would not bend a knee to nonduality, but why pray anyway.
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Where non-duality and other traditions go with that is that we all come back from the dead - just not consciously. Jesus was the example for all, of our essential immortality.

A key point I'll continue to make is that if non-dualists are 'true to form' (haha), they would have to acknowledge that the 2 approaches are coming from the same Source in different ways. It is the same Holy Spirit that non-dualists realize.

Jesus (as was Krishna, Buddha) was the exemplar of Source in and through a specific means (as Source) at a specific time for human beings at a specific evolutionary necessity. That is the very definition of 'avatar'.

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Old Yesterday, 06:31 PM
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Where non-duality and other traditions go with that is that we all come back from the dead - just not consciously.
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Please tell me how we experience life non-consciously?

I guess you mean consciously we return but not conscious of what we are now?

That could be... in my view of it all. But I don't know, can't remember past lives. Do we have a soul that continues within nonduality concepts?

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