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Old 17-02-2020, 12:35 PM
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Yes you have to conceptualise it . This is the nature of making sense of things and labelling things . Even that which is unknown is labelled as that and is understood to mean that .

It's futile to point at the tree and say the tree is not a tree it is for example a fusion of light energy when we are simply swapping one identification with another . And what is light energy if not already conceptualised as that ..

As soon as there is an association with something perceived it becomes conceptualised . You don't even have to have a name for it . A baby might like it's favourite teddy and not know the conceptual difference between the bear and cuddly elephant that it doesn't like .

It really boils down to being aware of their reality in a way that makes sense to them .. Anything of this nature is mindfully constructed and becomes conceptualised .

There is nothing wrong with that like said for it is a natural process but what has been happening here is that the concepts have already been applied to then be taken away . It doesn't work like that .


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We agree then

Edit: like it or not, this is part of the foundation of the law of attraction. Like concepts attract like concepts.
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Old 17-02-2020, 12:43 PM
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Actually, not. Which universe exists? The one in your mind or the one outside your mind? How do you know the one in your mind is an accurate representation of what's outside your mind?

You see a table, but can you see its constituent parts? Quarks, electrons, protons, neutrons, atoms, molecules, cellular structure? Do you even see it as wood? Which concept of table will you use? Is it solid or 99.999999999% empty but for electromagnetism and the nuclear strong force?

We have an inkling what's underneath electromagnetism and the nuclear weak force, but what's underneath the electroweak force and the nuclear strong force and gravity? What about dark matter/energy?

Do you really think you know what exists and what doesn't? How do you know you're not dreaming. Right now and right here? Aside from "I think therefore I am.". Can you really be certain of anything else? Anything other than you are conscious of some thing? Of just being and nothing beyond that is a certainty?
There is only one physical universe that I can see with my own 2 eyes. Any other universe you do not see with your 2 eyes is a concept and thus is a fantasy/dream.
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Actually, not. Which universe exists? The one in your mind or the one outside your mind? How do you know the one in your mind is an accurate representation of what's outside your mind?

You see a table, but can you see its constituent parts? Quarks, electrons, protons, neutrons, atoms, molecules, cellular structure? Do you even see it as wood? Which concept of table will you use? Is it solid or 99.999999999% empty but for electromagnetism and the nuclear strong force?

We have an inkling what's underneath electromagnetism and the nuclear weak force, but what's underneath the electroweak force and the nuclear strong force and gravity? What about dark matter/energy?

Do you really think you know what exists and what doesn't? How do you know you're not dreaming. Right now and right here? Aside from "I think therefore I am.". Can you really be certain of anything else? Anything other than you are conscious of some thing? Of just being and nothing beyond that is a certainty?
You sure know a lot about the physical universe for someone who thinks the physical universe is an illusion.
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Old 17-02-2020, 02:33 PM
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Actually, not. Which universe exists? The one in your mind or the one outside your mind? How do you know the one in your mind is an accurate representation of what's outside your mind?

You see a table, but can you see its constituent parts? Quarks, electrons, protons, neutrons, atoms, molecules, cellular structure? Do you even see it as wood? Which concept of table will you use? Is it solid or 99.999999999% empty but for electromagnetism and the nuclear strong force?

We have an inkling what's underneath electromagnetism and the nuclear weak force, but what's underneath the electroweak force and the nuclear strong force and gravity? What about dark matter/energy?

Do you really think you know what exists and what doesn't? How do you know you're not dreaming. Right now and right here? Aside from "I think therefore I am.". Can you really be certain of anything else? Anything other than you are conscious of some thing? Of just being and nothing beyond that is a certainty?
Going beyond a physical object creates a pointless, irrelavent fantasy concept of that physical object for the ego I.
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Old 17-02-2020, 08:11 PM
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Satya-advaitins (satya means truth, advaita means oneness) seek the meaning of this endless stream of questions concerning Reality and call it the Truth as a category and are permanently striving mentally to align and accomodadate themselves within it so that the category Truth is in effect their 'God' for all practical purposes or the supreme source of their inspiration and resulting lifestyle. The mind is focussed on Truth at all times, and truth-seeking at all times.

Looking out into reality while wearing red glasses, you will say - reality is red

Another person wearing blue glasses will say - No, reality is blue.

Another person wearing yellow glasses will say - No, no, you are both wrong, I see reality as being yellow.
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Satya-advaitins (satya means truth, advaita means oneness) seek the meaning of this endless stream of questions concerning Reality and call it the Truth as a category and are permanently striving mentally to align and accomodadate themselves within it so that the category Truth is in effect their 'God' for all practical purposes or the supreme source of their inspiration and resulting lifestyle. The mind is focussed on Truth at all times, and truth-seeking at all times.

Looking out into reality while wearing red glasses, you will say - reality is red

Another person wearing blue glasses will say - No, reality is blue.

Another person wearing yellow glasses will say - No, no, you are both wrong, I see reality as being yellow.
Words and concepts create beliefs, create the colored glasses, which color reality and truth.

When you are not wearing colored glasses (know the truth about words, concepts and beliefs, and apply said truth), your reality is not colored by words, concepts and beliefs.
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