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Old 21-10-2011, 12:33 AM
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If it was from the medication, would you consider it a true OBE, or a hallucination?

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Old 21-10-2011, 01:24 AM
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If it was from the medication, would you consider it a true OBE, or a hallucination?

Jim
You know when it happens to you that you're not dreaming or hallucinating. Its as real as me typing this sentence right now.

But ardent skeptics are always going to doubt and think its not real. Thats until it happens to them also. If you read near-death reports of atheists many of them are completely transformed and become more spiritual after they too had their own NDE.

Read here: http://www.near-death.com/atheists.html
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Old 21-10-2011, 08:51 AM
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I will spending quite a bit of time in the spirit world before I even contemplate coming back to Earth in human form. I feel there is so much to see in spirit world, I would be flying around space visiting different realms and planets. I will come to Earth in spirit form and do a "Nelson laugh" off the Simpsons at the people. I'll be saying you guys are stuck here on Earth while I'm flying around free from all the pain of living as humans.

If I was to come back in a next life, I would be choosing to be psychic, clairvoyant and medium. First things on the list of any return to human life on Earth.
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Old 21-10-2011, 10:48 AM
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The Nelson laugh comment made me chuckle.

I can't honestly know for certain what happens to us when we die, but I believe we make our own realities. I don't believe in a Heaven or Hell like in the Bible, or rather, how the media portrays it. I feel like it's more like the soul will return to an all knowing state of love and light like it was before we were born in mortal bodies. I've thought about reincarnation for many years and I still can not grasp the point of coming back to live another lifetime on earth. If I have been reincarnated before, perhaps this is my last go before I decide to bid this world farewell for good. I would imagine leaving this world would be so much better in comparison. To quote Bilbo Baggins "I think...I'm quite ready for another adventure"
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Old 21-10-2011, 11:11 AM
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The outcome of the temporary situation of near-death: yes. That and such other factors as physicians relating that it was medically impossible for the person to have seen and heard the things he reported seeing and hearing during the surgery: or people in other rooms and floors of the hospital verifying that yes, that is what they were discussing or doing or how they were dressed when the NDE'r was under general anaesthesia in a separate room on the next floor...

Jim

OK - in itself that's pretty interesting but mainly points to the underlying situation of a twin-component existence (body and soul/spirit) and for me that's way more important and interesting than NDE accounts about procedures and people in a hospital that couldn't have been known about. They relate simply to a particular, albeit unusual, occurrence in a very few individual's lives.

The notion of body and spirit - and the survival of one beyond the demise of the other - makes altogether more interesting learning I find.
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Old 21-10-2011, 11:22 AM
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"I've thought about reincarnation for many years and I still can not grasp the point of coming back to live another lifetime on earth." I've done the same but I've reached a different conclusion....

"If I have been reincarnated before, perhaps this is my last go before I decide to bid this world farewell for good." That's always possible...

"I would imagine leaving this world would be so much better in comparison." agreed!

What's usually forgotten, (or not understood) however, is that once we're freed from the constraints of the physical bodies in which we live, and once we've become acclimatised (again) to the etheric environment, we'll likely see matters differently from how we see them now....

The prospect of returning for one or more physical lives may then be assessed from an altogether different standpoint and (quote) "....the point of coming back to live another lifetime on earth" may then become clear.
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Old 21-10-2011, 11:25 AM
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I will spending quite a bit of time in the spirit world before I even contemplate coming back to Earth in human form. I feel there is so much to see in spirit world, I would be flying around space visiting different realms and planets. I will come to Earth in spirit form and do a "Nelson laugh" off the Simpsons at the people. I'll be saying you guys are stuck here on Earth while I'm flying around free from all the pain of living as humans.

If I was to come back in a next life, I would be choosing to be psychic, clairvoyant and medium. First things on the list of any return to human life on Earth.

Or you may simply see matters in a mature and less-fanciful way....
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Old 21-10-2011, 12:06 PM
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I think we do have multiple lives, we've had past lives as our soul continues to progress and grow.

I've heard many theories, one I heard the other day. That when a soul leaves this Earth, they spend seven Earth years in heaven before having to return to Earth. When a soul does this they leave messages behind in the spirit world to pass on to loved ones they left behind, that is what mediums pick up on.

I don't think there is one defining aspect of what the afterlife is, it is different for everyone based on your belief. I believe the soul has the power to make the afterlife what he/she wants it to be.
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Old 21-10-2011, 02:26 PM
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I would imagine leaving this world would be so much better in comparison. To quote Bilbo Baggins "I think...I'm quite ready for another adventure"

I'm with you and Bilbo.

Jim
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Old 21-10-2011, 02:29 PM
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I will spending quite a bit of time in the spirit world before I even contemplate coming back to Earth in human form. I feel there is so much to see in spirit world, I would be flying around space visiting different realms and planets. I will come to Earth in spirit form and do a "Nelson laugh" off the Simpsons at the people. I'll be saying you guys are stuck here on Earth while I'm flying around free from all the pain of living as humans.

If I was to come back in a next life, I would be choosing to be psychic, clairvoyant and medium. First things on the list of any return to human life on Earth.

Is it a matter of our choice? What about all the NDE'rs who report wanting to stay, but being sent back to their physical bodies?
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