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Old 19-04-2016, 04:13 AM
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Writing your life into Existence ?

After seeing Octavia Butler's Journal she is a science-fiction author who literally wrote her life into existence, I would love to discuss that and possibly get more info on this process.

I was inspired after seeing this, being a writer myself, this is something I want to do. Have any of you done this method?

What else do you think she did? (other than the obvious "work").


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Old 19-04-2016, 10:10 AM
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That''s the way to do it. That, plus visualising the various stages of it happening,
like the final stage would be sitting in a bookshop watching people browse
the shelves, pull out your books, read the blurbs and maybe the first page
then buy them with a smile.

Kind of thing.

Best wishes for your endeavours...

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Old 19-04-2016, 10:59 AM
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You might want to change the statements to "I am ..." Rather than the "I will ..." As "I will" translates to NOT NOW, so it will always be a future event.

"It is done!" Is also a good way to end it.
I wish you every success and I look forward to buying a signed copy of your works :)
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Old 19-04-2016, 02:54 PM
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You might want to change the statements to "I am ..." Rather than the "I will ..." As "I will" translates to NOT NOW, so it will always be a future event.

"It is done!" Is also a good way to end it.
I wish you every success and I look forward to buying a signed copy of your works :)

I agree with UncleManifestor in the using of " I am a bestselling author "

and also agree with the " I will " translates to NOT NOW, but in the future. This is almost like using the word " try " .... which translates to never achieving , but always stuck in the process of " trying " .

I have seen something similar to this, where one writes down what they are wanting to achieve, have, etc ... but it is all written in the present tense as if one already has what they are wanting to have.

so I would change that whole list on the bottom of the page of paper from " I wills .... " to for example :

My books are read by millions of people !
I have a beautiful home in an excellent neighborhood

Write it down, and ' see it ' as if you already have what you are wanting,
I believe this is a form of strong intention.

Best wishes to you girlsearching !



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Old 19-04-2016, 03:13 PM
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I agree with UncleManifestor in the using of " I am a bestselling author "

and also agree with the " I will " translates to NOT NOW, but in the future. This is almost like using the word " try " .... which translates to never achieving , but always stuck in the process of " trying " .

I have seen something similar to this, where one writes down what they are wanting to achieve, have, etc ... but it is all written in the present tense as if one already has what they are wanting to have.

so I would change that whole list on the bottom of the page of paper from " I wills .... " to for example :

My books are read by millions of people !
I have a beautiful home in an excellent neighborhood

Write it down, and ' see it ' as if you already have what you are wanting,
I believe this is a form of strong intention.

Best wishes to you girlsearching !




Thank you for confirming what I thought Adrienne! I wondered if I was going mad for a second or two there, memory playing tricks or something.

I have a fantastic memory
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Old 19-04-2016, 02:04 PM
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^^^ Don't agree. I will is a focus on the intent.

It's fine to say "I am" (writing a best seller) for the thing you're working on
But it always needs an eye to the future. "It will" (be a best seller) if you're going to visualise your place in the future.

The illustration in the original post is "each of my books will be on the best seller lists."
They have yet to be written. LOA wouldn't be appropriate for work yet to be done.
It would be a pretence to imagine they already are!


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Old 19-04-2016, 03:06 PM
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^^^ Don't agree. I will is a focus on the intent.

It's fine to say "I am" (writing a best seller) for the thing you're working on
But it always needs an eye to the future. "It will" (be a best seller) if you're going to visualise your place in the future.

The illustration in the original post is "each of my books will be on the best seller lists."
They have yet to be written. LOA wouldn't be appropriate for work yet to be done.
It would be a pretence to imagine they already are!


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You are meant to be thinking from the perspective of it having already manifested, that way things slot into place to make it happen (such as penning the words, finding a publisher, etc etc).
This is one of the main points that Esther Hicks (Abraham) emphasises again and again, think that you have it now and the universe fills in the gaps, either through inspiring action or things syncing up.

The intent was there when you first thought of writing the books.

If you are thinking from the perspective of "I will ..." Then it is sending a message to the universe that you are not ready for it to happen yet.

Think about when you were a child, when you said "I will tidy my room", did you ever tidy it without further prompting required? If you were like me, you would leave it for as long as possible and only actually do the task when it was demanded, do it now!

So the "I am..." Is stating it as a demand, rather than a request. Same for affirmations, always "I am" is more powerful than "I will". You can't ask when to "I am" but you can to "I will".
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Old 19-04-2016, 04:04 PM
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I like this one !
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This is one of the main points that Esther Hicks (Abraham) emphasises again and again, think that you have it now and the universe fills in the gaps, either through inspiring action or things syncing up.


I really like that idea, "think that we have it now and the universe fills in the gaps !! "

I am making changes in my manifesting techniques NOW, as we speak ! or at the moment, I am speaking and you are listening, lol.

And you are welcome on the confirmation of your earlier post/ thoughts re " I am " VS " I will "
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Old 19-04-2016, 06:49 PM
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Think about when you were a child, when you said "I will tidy my room", did you ever tidy it without further prompting required? If you were like me, you would leave it for as long as possible and only actually do the task when it was demanded, do it now!

So the "I am..." Is stating it as a demand, rather than a request. Same for affirmations, always "I am" is more powerful than "I will". You can't ask when to "I am" but you can to "I will".

The scope of such a task is rather different, wouldn't you say? That concerns just the future tense. I will (to achieve something edifying to the soul) is about perseverance and motivated determination.

You see, (well, I won't "argue" beyond this) your logic fails. The intent isn't what you're doing now. Believing you've already written a list of best sellers is an empty gesture. The intent is that you will across a span of time write best sellers but you haven't done it yet. You won't get far sitting there saying "I am a famous author." because you aren't. At that stage you're purely a thinker.

This LOA stuff works in limited applications. If I wanted to become a famous concert pianist, believing I'm that, now, is plain silly. I'd have to be able to play some pretty technically / artistically complicated music, which I can't as at today. If I could I wouldn't need LOA - except possibly to convert the skills into fame.

One of the guys I sometimes play music with is going bald. He doesn't want that and spent a year believing a) that he wasn't bald and b) therefore, that the LOA would work. He finally gave it up as bunk. It didn't work. Another friend did use it successfully to get herself skinny, probably because it needed just a change of behaviour, not physiology.

As Walter Cronkite would say....and that's the way it is.

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Old 20-04-2016, 10:14 AM
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The scope of such a task is rather different, wouldn't you say? That concerns just the future tense. I will (to achieve something edifying to the soul) is about perseverance and motivated determination.

You see, (well, I won't "argue" beyond this) your logic fails. The intent isn't what you're doing now. Believing you've already written a list of best sellers is an empty gesture. The intent is that you will across a span of time write best sellers but you haven't done it yet. You won't get far sitting there saying "I am a famous author." because you aren't. At that stage you're purely a thinker.

This LOA stuff works in limited applications. If I wanted to become a famous concert pianist, believing I'm that, now, is plain silly. I'd have to be able to play some pretty technically / artistically complicated music, which I can't as at today. If I could I wouldn't need LOA - except possibly to convert the skills into fame.

One of the guys I sometimes play music with is going bald. He doesn't want that and spent a year believing a) that he wasn't bald and b) therefore, that the LOA would work. He finally gave it up as bunk. It didn't work. Another friend did use it successfully to get herself skinny, probably because it needed just a change of behaviour, not physiology.

As Walter Cronkite would say....and that's the way it is.



We seem to have very different views on the law of attraction.

My analogy was to highlight the difference between the commands to the universe (the child).
Deliberate creation is about 'fooling' the universe into thinking that there is a disparity between what is meant to be there (your belief) and what is actually there (reality), the universe then sets in motion events (or inspires actions) to make the belief and the reality match.

Your examples are nothing to do with the law of attraction, because they miss a vital part - belief. To manifest requires a belief, belief that you are a virtuoso pianist, belief that his hair will grow back, actual belief, not just saying it, actually believing in your heart that it is true. The reason why it has not worked in your examples is because conditioning (hair pun) from birth has led you to believe that these things can't happen. These are limiting beliefs or blocks.
The blocks need to be removed before the manifestation can happen.

The conventional pianist is told from an early age that it is hard to be a concert pianist, that it requires dedication, practice etc etc. So, over the years of practice their mind's eye view of themselves becomes a belief that they are a concert pianist, but it is all really a confidence trick. They have cultivated the belief over the years, but as Gok Wan says "It's all about the confidence".

Take a look at quantum jumping, Burt Goldman, he is basically proof of this theory. What he does is similar to astral travel, he goes into a trance/meditive state and journeys to a parallel existence in which he meets a version of himself that is adept at the skill he wishes to posses (an artist for example). He then takes on their energy/vibrative state and brings it back with him to this reality.
He has used this technique for a number of skills, despite only starting this technique in his 70s.
It is interesting viewing/reading about him.
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