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Old 20-02-2020, 06:48 AM
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Real or not, it's important, what it's important it is the impact that it has on people, one of the most positive and powerful impact that may change a person for the rest of his/her life.

You got it all wrong, I was talking that He is not coming in the clouds, for the whole world to see it, but only to these people, in their dreams.



You didn't mention Clouds.... Now I have to work out what the metaphor is
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Old 20-02-2020, 06:50 AM
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Spoken like a true skeptic...…) If it doesn't happen to all of us it can't happen ?...….:)


Yes, Buddha also mentioned something similar in his Teachings.
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Old 21-02-2020, 01:38 AM
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I follow an Youtube channel where people share their testimonies about meeting Christ, so I started to notice that there are more and more people who talk about meeting Christ, in almost all these testimonies He gives them a message. A good portion of them are about His Second Coming, but in this particular case, these vision do not come to pass, so my guess is that He is coming to these people, not to the whole world.

So what do you think about this?

Variations of this is a common occurrence in the charismatic Churches/groups.

In many cases, the people are in a trance.
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Old 21-02-2020, 12:40 PM
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I follow an Youtube channel where people share their testimonies about meeting Christ, so I started to notice that there are more and more people who talk about meeting Christ, in almost all these testimonies He gives them a message. A good portion of them are about His Second Coming, but in this particular case, these vision do not come to pass, so my guess is that He is coming to these people, not to the whole world.

So what do you think about this?
Here is what Jesus thinks about this:

And then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect.
Mark 13:21,22 ESV

The failure of their visions to come to pass proves that they are false prophets. If you want to know the truth about Jesus read the Bible rather than listening to people tell of their visions.
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Old 21-02-2020, 08:12 PM
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, so my guess is that He is coming to these people, not to the whole world.

So what do you think about this?

ThatMan,

I have to agree with your guess. The nature of experience is that it is individual. Even if 20,000 people all attend the same concert or the same ballgame each one experiences it individually. We might all have witnessed the same thing but each one of us processes it differently depending on our focus, our previous experiences that led to that moment, our cultural lens, etc etc. Do not discount the experiences of others....it was real to them. Sometimes we might have the opportunity "to dream the impossible dream" and if we do, first and foremost, it is our dream. When Jesus said you must be born again that birth experience might be beyond your ability to articulate but it will be your individual experience. When it comes to this you are no longer one amongst many but you will become aware that you are unique to God. And, by the way, this outlook informs my understanding of the Second Coming.....we will experience it individually.
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Old 22-02-2020, 02:13 AM
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wasn't there something about in the end many would claim to be christ, and if it were possible even the elect would be fooled by them?

and wasn't there something else about when he does come again, every eye would see his coming?
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Old 22-02-2020, 05:39 AM
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wasn't there something about in the end many would claim to be christ, and if it were possible even the elect would be fooled by them?

and wasn't there something else about when he does come again, every eye would see his coming?

I don't think I said something about them claiming to be Christ, I only said that they had these dreams with Christ giving them messages, it's not something abnormal, throughout history many other have had visions with Christ.
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Old 22-02-2020, 02:12 PM
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Spoken like a true skeptic...…) If it doesn't happen to all of us it can't happen ?...….:)




People say all sorts of things on the internet and it's reasonable to be skeptical.
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