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13-08-2018, 06:30 PM
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Christ did NOT go around teaching everyone self love.
Christ's teachings go beyond self love, as does that of the Old Testament. The complete Bible does not teach that self love is the answer; which is what the Hindus and New Age would have us believe.
Self love really is the dark side of love. It is love but it is very self absorbed and not necessarily virtuous or ethical. The Bible is mainly about whole love which Christ summed up as love of self, others and God. NOT just the flaming self.
Get over yourselves! So what you are God, but are not we all. God is God too.
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13-08-2018, 10:41 PM
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Self love manifests as forgiveness...cuz we beat ourselves up so much...
as we inwardly forgive
ourselves for our many blunders...we are to forgive our neighbor for the same blunders...
that come from childhood trauma unhealed and still pushed down...usually...
then projected out onto others as a way to release pain and guilt and shame that is unconscious!
Until we love ourselves ...accepting ourselves and being gentle with ourselves ...we can never love God fully.
Maybe another angle to see this in? 
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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13-08-2018, 10:58 PM
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How can you love others if you are no capable to love yourself?
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14-08-2018, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rah nam
How can you love others if you are no capable to love yourself?
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It's possible, I don't know why people say this so often. No offence to anyone. It's just that I think people can love others without loving themselves, it's probably better for two people who love themselves to be together, more ideal and harmonious perhaps. But if someone doesn't love themselves it's not like they are incapable of loving another, these can be very self sacrificing people, because they may not care about themselves too much or maybe also kinda secretly want to die. |
14-08-2018, 03:07 AM
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I'm so glad it isn't just me who has reservations about the "self-love" bandwagon. It does seem like ego, to pat oneself on the back for doing well, for making progress, for helping someone. I can accept the concept of "self-acceptance" far better. I accept who I am, I accept what I have achieved and what I have failed to achieve. I accept my gifts and my flaws. If I do something good, I don't praise myself for it. I did it because it was right and good, and that should be all that needs to be said.
And definitely true, Nature Grows. Some people are very self sacrificing people who have little concern for their own comfort or pleasures. They don't need to love themselves in order to love others.
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14-08-2018, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Nature Grows
It's possible, I don't know why people say this so often. No offence to anyone. It's just that I think people can love others without loving themselves, it's probably better for two people who love themselves to be together, more ideal and harmonious perhaps. But if someone doesn't love themselves it's not like they are incapable of loving another, these can be very self sacrificing people, because they may not care about themselves too much or maybe also kinda secretly want to die.
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Then we perhaps need to clarify what love is.
Creating attachments or seeking gratification for some reason would not constitute as love in my view. |
14-08-2018, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Rah nam
Then we perhaps need to clarify what love is.
Creating attachments or seeking gratification for some reason would not constitute as love in my view.
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Some spirit once asked me "what is love?". I considered it a moment, and finally the only thing I could get in my mind was the word "Mother". |
14-08-2018, 04:55 AM
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How can you give away what you don't have yourself ?
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14-08-2018, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Honza
Christ's teachings go beyond self love, as does that of the Old Testament. The complete Bible does not teach that self love is the answer; which is what the Hindus and New Age would have us believe.
Self love really is the dark side of love. It is love but it is very self absorbed and not necessarily virtuous or ethical. The Bible is mainly about whole love which Christ summed up as love of self, others and God. NOT just the flaming self.
Get over yourselves! So what you are God, but are not we all. God is God too.
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Self love is the most important gift you can give yourself, then you can share it with others |
14-08-2018, 06:34 AM
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how can you possibly not be fully emerged in love seems to me its around every one every where
how can others be cut off from all that if its so that they are ?
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