Guru Rinpoche Day

#1 05-11-2011, 07:26 PM

It's Guru Rinpoche day today and I've been trying to find the tune to ''The Shower Of Blessing'' text. My partner and me used to do this together but we havn't done it for a while and my partner has since stepped onto a new path of practice.I don't know the tune to do it on my own. Can anyone give me a link to anything that might be of help.

Samana · #2 06-11-2011, 07:01 PM

Just to clarify, Guru Rinpoche is only significant to Tibetans and not to other Buddhist traditions.

#3 07-11-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Samana

Just to clarify, Guru Rinpoche is only significant to Tibetans and not to other Buddhist traditions.

I thought Guru Rinpoche was the second Buddha.

Samana · #4 09-11-2011, 12:23 AM

Tibetans believe that - but Guru Rinpoche has no significance in Zen or Theravada Buddhism, for example.

#5 09-11-2011, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Samana

Tibetans believe that - but Guru Rinpoche has no significance in Zen or Theravada Buddhism, for example.

Do you know if Chenrezig and Green Tara have any significance in these schools of Buddhism?

If Guru Rinpoche has no significance in Theravadan Buddhism then that must mean that The Buddha himself did not speak of him.

#6 09-11-2011, 04:21 PM

Did not speak fo Guru Rinpoche I mean.

Samana · #7 09-11-2011, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandarava

Do you know if Chenrezig and Green Tara have any significance in these schools of Buddhism?

If Guru Rinpoche has no significance in Theravadan Buddhism then that must mean that The Buddha himself did not speak of him.

Chenrezig and Tara don't have any significance in Theravada or Zen. The Pali Canon certainly doesn't have any record of the Buddha speaking of Guru Rinpoche who lived centuries later than Buddha.
Historians also now confirm that Mahayana sutras were written a lot later than the time of the Buddha -(which is why its said they were hidden by dragons or nagas for hundreds of years.... and so on)

#8 10-11-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Samana

Chenrezig and Tara don't have any significance in Theravada or Zen. The Pali Canon certainly doesn't have any record of the Buddha speaking of Guru Rinpoche who lived centuries later than Buddha.
Historians also now confirm that Mahayana sutras were written a lot later than the time of the Buddha -(which is why its said they were hidden by dragons or nagas for hundreds of years.... and so on)

See.... that's exactly my argument with people. If things get added or taken away then the only thing we're left with is

Confussion, why?... because we don't know what the Buddha actually said anymore. I'm talking from a Karma Kagyu point of view.I have since realised ( through google and our little chats here ) that Theravadan is the actual teachings of the Buddha.Seems I didn't have the karma to figure this out till now though.I took refuge in the Karma Kagyu tradition in the year 2000.