Do You Believe In Man-gods...or man and God?

Originally Posted by Mathew James

sounds like word games


mj

I agree
It is a dam word game. Who the F*&^%$# cares. Let us all respect each other’s beliefs. As humans this conversations only shows how we limit our self by our self-riotousness. We as humanity supposed to make progress regardless of our individuality. How about we stop playing games and f#$%^& get along. That is how wars start.
See now you all make me cuss dam my mom taught me to be a lady. LOL

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Originally Posted by Elena

I agree
It is a dam word game. Who the F*&^%$# cares. Let us all respect each other’s beliefs. As humans this conversations only shows how we limit our self by our self-riotousness. We as humanity supposed to make progress regardless of our individuality. How about we stop playing games and f#$%^& get along. That is how wars start.
See now you all make me cuss dam my mom taught me to be a lady. LOL

so you accuse me of playing word games and cuss up a f#%@king storm because i answered, in all sincerity, a question someOne aske me? and you're calling for respect?

revealing.

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Originally Posted by Krishna-prem

Agreed. Worship keeps God at a distance. For some people that is what they want spiritually. God is up there and we down here praying, begging, groveling, and praising something far away and distant that we may never have a direct experience of.

Surrender is the active pursuit of God in a very intimate way. It brings God directly into your life here and now. It is incredibly intimate because to surrender means to give everything you are to God. It's done out of love and complete trust. Surrender is worship however worship is not surrender.

thank you. agreed.

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Originally Posted by Mathew James

IQ, yes many people have an external show of piety. But that does not relate to remembering God and praising Gods glory. I know you know that I know you know i know that.

Generally speaking, most people do not remember God and that is all God really wants from us. There are no physical acts required or external shows. It is purely a spiritual state of mind where a person thinks about God. Then if we are remembering God and looking at the creation God created for us, a person will generally be thankful and praise God because we see it is all part of Gods devine nature. And if a person is truly thankful they often can surrender to God.


mj

we might be experiencing a semantics problem. i've stated my opinion on the distinction between "worship" and "surrender". make of it what you will but it was not my intention to cast aspersions your religous practices.

[Mathew James]

semantics it could be, started a new post seeking the answer; what is the difference between worship and surrender?

But for this post, imo there is God and there is humanity.


mj

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Originally Posted by Mathew James

semantics it could be, started a new post seeking the answer; what is the difference between worship and surrender?

But for this post, imo there is God and there is humanity.


mj

imo, "God" IS humanity, visa versa and everything else.

Originally Posted by Internal Queries

so you accuse me of playing word games and cuss up a f#%@king storm because i answered, in all sincerity, a question someOne aske me? and you're calling for respect?

revealing.

My apologies
I was not cussing at anyone in particular. I have a temper at times and try to control most of the time. That is my negative side I freely admit it is my weakness. I just don't like when people try to justify whose religion or beliefs are better. I dealt with a lot of judgment and prejudice not only for my ethnic back round but for my spirituality from different people including my family. I just get heated and if I offended people then I will try to be more tactful. Perhaps the whole conversation from beginning till my first posting was misunderstood by me. I have no problem admitting I am wrong. So cheer up look at it on the bright side it was a lesson well learned by me.