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Old 17-12-2012, 02:15 AM
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Where do we go after death

Like everyone else I had curiosities about life after death or what happens after we die. I never knew much about afterlife, i read an article based on research done by the Spiritual Science Research Foundation about this, their articles give me much understanding and clarification about the afterlife. I was able to understand about the afterlife and the factors that contribute to what happens in the afterlife.

source: Spiritual Science Research Foundation (SSRF) type Life after death in search box

much gratitude for this information, hope you can find their resource to be beneficial too


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Old 17-12-2012, 12:21 PM
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Greetings Spirit Guide Sparrow,

Many thanks for your insightful replies. Your words are worthy of contemplation because your second answer was completely new to me. I hope I have the ability to truly understand what you say, and also be able to consider your words with an open mind.

Once again many thanks.

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Old 18-12-2012, 03:01 AM
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Greetings, Sparrow,

Having the ability to create all possibilities in the other dimension to explore is great indeed...what then makes this (our) dimension so valuable? What need or value is there to vibrate at such a low frequency?
Dear RobinoftheMoor,
Salutations. May contentment and tranquillity fasten your soul within the seat of your spirit.

To address and articulate clarity to this question requires us to look at two facets brought forward by your good self. That of value, and that of frequencies.

You ask what makes physical state so valuable. In a sense we could say the value of such is surely determined by the state of perception you have of physical state, and from what energy state you are interacting with it from. This is to say, you as a human being acclimatise and register your consciousness to a specific outlook and set of adopted values. In other dimensions, or even with beings on other physical planets, their learned values and state of outlook can be, and are, considerably different to those of human beings. The way different beings measure and assign value is vastly diversified. So then when you ask what makes physical state so valuable, we would have to ask, valuable to whom or valuable to what? We would need to assign a specific species and bandwidth of perception to explain how that specific value set relates to its interaction and attraction to physical state.

If you are asking what makes physical state so valuable to a human being, their answers are notably going to relate to the reality they observe and experience themselves within. Once the same human being, having crossed over to the spirit world and viewing that existence within their Akashic soul book, their sense and measure of value often changes because they are no longer a physical human being. Though of course, they can still be so in the spirit world, just as solid and physical as they were on Earth. They will just not be confined to being one persona, in one place and at one time; they will be in multiple places, in multiple forms, doing multiple things at once.

To understand better why your spirit perceived value in having a physical life, when it actually did not ever need to have one, we must look at how you perceive vibration.
Firstly, it is plain and clear to all in the spirit world that human beings have a fixation with hierarchical thinking and thought processes. For it is, human beings attach this mindset to almost everything they do and perceive of themselves in their belief systems of this time period. This is to say, human beings seem to enjoy assigning one thing ‘better’ than something else in the universe. Their assignment of value is derived from perceiving one thing more valuable to them than something else, thus they will judge one thing as bad, as negative or worth less than something else. This mindset causes not only separation from all that is, but creates fear, suffering and misconception. Human beings have adopted a self-belief that they are worth less than the divine in spirit because they deem those in the spirit world as ‘better’. This then disassociates their physical aspect from their divine aspect, which is the cause of suffering.
Human beings assign one vibration, or one frequency as being more valuable, more worthy of love, and worth more in the eyes of some deity than another one which is different. Indeed, one vibration can resonate and oscillate faster than another. Yet I tell you, it is only human ego that assigns one speed to have greater value than another. For it is only human ego which holds the perception than one is somehow better than another. In many respects this can be seen as true, for the vibration of a bacterial virus resonates at a slower rate than a healthy mammal or fish. The bacterial virus, because of its negative effect on human state, will be valued less, and judged as being ‘bad’. Does this mean to say, a bacterial virus has less worth and holds less meaning to the universe than something humanity considers ‘good’? Human beings only judge it as being bad because they do not like how that life form behaves. That specific life form, within its specific vibration does not act and perform in a manner humanity agrees with, therefore its function and existence condemned and cursed. Bacterial viruses in actuality have no conscious awareness that they are harming anything or anyone in their own aspiration to exist. Why then are they to be judged as being worth less, and having less meaning in the universe? Why then has that life form within that vibration to be any less divine than the vibration humans resonate within? The structure of bacteria, within their specific vibration are what actually made it possible for human beings to exist at all in their current state. This is to say, without that specific vibration that bacteria vibrate at, humanity would cease to exist in their own vibration. Yet humanity condemns and assigns less value to something which granted them their own existence and their own evolution.

Now then, what makes a lower vibration have value? What makes the physical state hold value to the spirit state? Well to begin with, the physical state is just as important to the spiritual state as is the spiritual to the physical. This is to say, things are created and made manifest in physical state which did not exist in any other dimension before. Only after it was created in physical state was it then expanded into perfection and alternate perspective within other dimensions. Just as there exists things in other dimensions, other vibrations which are manifesting potentials in physical state. The different states of vibration, the different dimensions rely upon, and exist interwoven within one another infinitely influencing one another and creating new possibilities all of the time. Just as the vibration of bacteria continues to influence the vibration of human beings, other vibrations, other dimensions continue to influence one another. This means one vibration cannot be of greater value than another, for all are interwoven as one fluid mechanism, one interconnected sentient orchestration, and one infinitely expansive and evolving interactive process. That which some call God. God is within the smallest bacteria, and God is within the grandest celestial angel you care to envision. For all are part of the evolution, the unfolding, the One-ness that God is.

May you lay your own course in miracles.
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Old 18-12-2012, 05:11 AM
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What really happens?...." I will tell you of great things. ....


1st. You will be to leave your body. This will be the first sign.... But once this is to be, you will feel weightless. You will begin your journey.

2nd. This will last about five seconds. But then you will be given your path.

3rd. Those of orange will be to bowel. Those of green to me. I am to show you my way. ...your aura depicts your true soul and your fate. By far is the journey of green grass. It is only my light of white and purity.

Be to know who you are. You are to be of listen. You must continue life in order to know what you are to be. "

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Old 18-12-2012, 06:36 PM
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The Value of the Physical Dimension

Greetings, Sparrow...once again you bless us by taking the time to word your answers carefully and precisely...
To continue...so each creates their own value of this dimension, is that to say we also assign a purpose to our existance that is tailored to our specific spiritual needs, or do we have a singular purpose devised by the All That Is?
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Old 18-12-2012, 10:12 PM
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Greetings, Sparrow...once again you bless us by taking the time to word your answers carefully and precisely...
To continue...so each creates their own value of this dimension, is that to say we also assign a purpose to our existance that is tailored to our specific spiritual needs, or do we have a singular purpose devised by the All That Is?
Greetings to you as well, Robin.
May the landscape of your consciousness illuminate the sunset of your soul.

Precisely so. The reason for beings doing something, for choosing something, for aspiring towards something, is derived from their current set of values. Since not all beings on Earth resonate the same core vibration, nor are they from the same soul groups, they are inherently going to have different reasons for doing different things and thinking in different ways.

There are several billion soul groups currently represented on Earth, each with their own core vibration signature. This difference in core vibration within their different soul heritage journey will help you understand why some people do not get on well with others, while some feel as if they have known one another forever. Within these different soul groups we observe many differences in values, in thought processes and behaviours, as well as differences in aspirations. The assigning of purpose that you ask about is in effect going to relate to those things I have illuminated. Such purpose may be to benefit their soul group directly, or it may also be a very personal sense of fulfilment that one wishes to attract to as part of their own individual journey. The overall sense of purpose of all spirit is to be in service. There is no spirit which is not. How each soul wishes to bring that about is a choice for the individual.

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Old 20-12-2012, 04:16 PM
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Thank you

Greetings again, Sparrow...your teachings open many facets, like the diamond...could you expand on this concept of "service" to others?
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Old 20-12-2012, 09:56 PM
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May the love of the universe shine upon you.
May the many voices of wisdom reach you.

To understand the perspective and behaviour of others towards you, you must first learn to understand your own perspective that you have for yourself, and the behaviour that is your making.

To accept others into your life enough to trust them with thought, word and deed, you must first learn to accept yourself for who and what you are in this present moment, that you may be more receptive and receiving of your own much needed trust. If you do not trust yourself, then you do not love yourself.

Love is the answer to all questions. Love is the key to all doors. Love is the voice which speaks the highest wisdom. Just as love lies deep within you waiting to be unwrapped, so too do the many answers you seek. Love must always begin with you, within you. Before you can be given, you must teach yourself to receive.

There are those who see you within a dim light of your true nature, your true beauty. There are those who take advantage and who take value from that which you are. There are those who respond at best to as much as you allow them to see. The fact of you not loving yourself, trusting yourself nor giving value to yourself has created an external image perceivable by others to which they then judge you by.

If you want others to see more than you are allowing them to see, you must see it within yourself first. For if you do not see it, then most others will not either. If you do not express to the world WHO YOU ARE because of your fear, your quietness and concern of others opinion, then this problem of you being misunderstood, used and hurt will continue long after these words are heard. Walk within assurity of who you are. Be it that words do not carry your voice to those you would have hear it, then embrace the voice of action, of deed and direct decision that they may speak on your behalf.

Not all of us can be masters of words. Some of us are masters of the heart, which speak through other channels.

If you wish to be better understood in your words, practice speaking your own heart on paper. Write your feelings, your thoughts and opinions of all that invokes a voice within you; write how you would speak from the true soul of who you perceive yourself to be in the greatest and grandest vision of who you are. Practice these written words verbally, openly, in front of a mirror, in front of animals, or in front of those friends you feel comfortable. You must communicate to the world who you truly are, in one voice or another, for if you do not, others will see you purely for that which you are not. This is the beginning of suffering.

As for what speaks to you in your quietest hour. That is your true Self. Listen to it. Live it. Share it.

The voice of a friend.
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SGS, I know this was a response to Sarian, but it was very moving and universal in its message. It can be read as stand-alone guidance and speaks to the hearts of many.

Thank you for your response and for the many other insights here.
Peace and blessings,
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Old 21-12-2012, 11:36 PM
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Greetings again, Sparrow...your teachings open many facets, like the diamond...could you expand on this concept of "service" to others?
It would be my pleasure to speak of the spirit, and of service to all.

To first begin with a basic facet of understanding, let us approach a misconception of what spirit is, and is not. There appears at times to be those that, when they relay undesirable experiences of the spirit world they speak of an encounter with an evil spirit. Perhaps it is through some instrument like a Ouija board, poltergeist or disturbing out of body experience. While I do not deny or discredit the personal accounts of those that incur traumatic experiences of this kind, I feel it is necessary to illuminate the fact that they are not interacting with a spirit of any kind. They are more accurately interacting with consciousness on a much lower vibration, which has in a sense become fragmented and disassociated with its spirit identity. This is to say, no being will ever have a negative encounter with a spirit, for such a thing is impossible. That which all spirit is, regardless of what soul group they attract to, is the same loving vibration intent than that of Prime Creator. This is to say, if you are not connecting with pure love and unconditional acceptance, you are not connecting with a spirit of any kind. Spirit remain within a vibration which is aligned with a state of intent which is indefinitely compelled to be in self-less service to all that exists. This is to say, a negative thought never, ever, enters the domain of the spirit. A negative intention or judgement simply cannot exist within the vibration where your spirit resides. This is the same for all spirit, of all species, of all dimensions and universes. Regardless of whatever actions a physical being may perpetrate in physical state, on Earth or on any other world, those actions and negative attachments of behaviour can never, ever, remove, destroy or lose the pure sacred identity of that beings spirit.

What tends to happen with beings in physical state, is that they attract other energies, states of thought and behaviour into their field of consciousness, which then after their passing they wear over their spirit. The effect of this is that this lower density layer of thought and persona attracts to itself a perceived reality which most matches its vibration. This means the soul persona will continue to attract to it those things, and those experiences which gravitate to them from their behaviour of mind. So then, such things as those energies which attract to Ouija boards and so forth are not spirits, but are personas of consciousness which still hold together strong forms of mental or emotional behaviour, causing them to remain within denser vibrations close to the Earth. This does not mean their spirit is lost, for their spirit still remains in bliss and infinite love. It is simply that, that conscious element is not aware of or intently attracted towards its own spirit or its vibration of intention. The intention of service to all. The intention and duty of care to all beings. This is the natural state of your spirit, your true Self.

To begin to imagine how your spirit behaves naturally, try to hold within mind the concept of unconditional love. This concept will not be accurate, for this state cannot occur through the mind. It is not a state one comes to via the mind, and is not a state that can be reached by means of effort or measurable progress. Unconditional love is something which is allowed to happen when the human being lets go of motive and sense of Self-gain. When you impart your gifts to the universe without requiring thought to do so; without requiring a reason to do what you are doing in service and honour of someone or something else, this is the beginning. The moment you attract a thought to a condition or conclusion of value to that deed, it is no longer unconditional love. Love simply is the exhale of the Self, that releases and lets go of all that it is to the existence. This is a tiny fragment of what the natural state of spirit is attuned to.

To gravitate ourselves forward further in thought about spirit in service we can also talk about the many forms in which these self-less deeds are manifested. A good place to begin, as always, in all ways, is the halls of information. This is a central hub of knowledge, travel and exploration. It draws to its doors an incalculable number of beings from all over the universe, from all walks of life, seeking answers and doorways to new opportunities. From here you will meet all manner of personas in many shapes and sizes who offer all manner of fulfilments designed to increase joy and raise the vibration of all the beings within that proximity.
This can come in the form of healing modalities, which are given freely without judgement to whosoever may need it. This can come in the form of facilitation or representation of groups, of specific intentions or sacred places. This can come in the form of contributions to events, tours or activities relating to specific abilities or skill sets. Whatever your innermost heart extends towards will likely be your foremost afforded act of service.

To attract themselves more intimately closer to their own spirit nature, in a sense to touch the very essence of their original Source, souls align themselves to deeply loving values gravitated towards service to others. Performing these acts of service and care to others raises the vibration and access of everyone in the spirit world, and subsequently everyone in every other dimension, as they are all connected. The fundamental purpose of spirit being in service to all is the desire of Self-awareness through Self-expression. This means spirit wishes to experience the awareness of its own existence and nature by expressing it through creation and interaction. This creation and interaction can only be made possible through the formation of loving relationships with other states, other beings and other elements of consciousness. Though this is by no means defined by romantic or other such human conditioned relationships, such will not be excluded from your sphere of expression, for you have chosen to sample such in your current human form. Understand simply that there billions of other expressions of relationship and connectivity which your soul will wish to explore long after you have passed on. Your soul presently exists in relationship with the Earth, to this specific physical state, in order to express your spirit nature within and through that relationship. It was hoped that this attraction of relationship would create opportunities for Self-expression of those gifts and values you bring with you.

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SGS, I know this was a response to Sarian, but it was very moving and universal in its message. It can be read as stand-alone guidance and speaks to the hearts of many.

Thank you for your response and for the many other insights here.
Peace and blessings,
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Thank you in kind for your contribution of thought and word.
I aspire all of my words to move thoughts in new directions and to more sincere intentions.
May your own council within leave you never without.

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