Spiritual Forums

Home


Donate!


Articles


CHAT!


Shop


 
Welcome to Spiritual Forums!.

We created this community for people from all backgrounds to discuss Spiritual, Paranormal, Metaphysical, Philosophical, Supernatural, and Esoteric subjects. From Astral Projection to Zen, all topics are welcome. We hope you enjoy your visits.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to most discussions and articles. By joining our free community you will be able to post messages, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos, and gain access to our Chat Rooms, Registration is fast, simple, and free, so please, join our community today! !

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, check our FAQs before contacting support. Please read our forum rules, since they are enforced by our volunteer staff. This will help you avoid any infractions and issues.

Go Back   Spiritual Forums > Spirituality & Beliefs > Non Duality

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #331  
Old 30-09-2019, 01:42 PM
BigJohn BigJohn is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: अनुगृहितोऽस्म
Posts: 16,048
  BigJohn's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker
***

“The heart is another name for consciousness, for "I am that I am." I-am is the first name of God. God is consciousness. I-am is consciousness, and you are that.”

Robert Adams ***
and another nice expression.
__________________


 
   ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜ ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜

        Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
   ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜ ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜


Reply With Quote
  #332  
Old 01-10-2019, 01:37 AM
Unseeking Seeker Unseeking Seeker is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Delhi, India
Posts: 10,939
  Unseeking Seeker's Avatar
***

The Void

“To the average person the I begins to become stronger and stronger when you wake up in the morning. It emerges from your spiritual center and heads up your spine to your brain, where you become cognizant of the world. But for the spiritual aspirant who practices self-inquiry, you begin to watch the I doing this. You abide in the I. As you begin to abide in the I, it will reverse it's course and head back to the center. When it heads back to the center, it will rest on the circumference of the center. That is as far as you can go by yourself. You will be in an effortless thought-free state. You will be in the void, as it tells you in Buddhism.

Yet most Buddhists think the void is self-realization. That's a mistake. The void is when your I is resting on the circumference of your heart center. When that happens you've come a long way. You are a mature disciple. Yet the Self has to pull the I inside the heart. Then you become liberated. This is very rarely done by the self or by yourself. I'm speaking of the small self. Only in a very few, will the I go directly into the heart center and be extinguished.”

Robert Adams

***
__________________
The Self has no attribute
Reply With Quote
  #333  
Old 01-10-2019, 04:47 AM
Unseeking Seeker Unseeking Seeker is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Delhi, India
Posts: 10,939
  Unseeking Seeker's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidsun
And I am speaking of the 'small' self NOT being extinguished, but attaining what Jesus spoke of 'eternal' life by way of expanding its sense of its 'own' 'i'dentity; to include everyone and everything (including its 'own' 'self').

Wishing 'you' a 'happy' extinguishment, since that appears to be what 'you' most desire, Unseeker.

***

A fair statement, applicable after delusion is extinguished

***
__________________
The Self has no attribute
Reply With Quote
  #334  
Old 01-10-2019, 11:42 AM
Miss Hepburn Miss Hepburn is offline
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southwest, USA
Posts: 24,946
  Miss Hepburn's Avatar
Do not allow the news to...confound you and confuse you....
After all, it's the same as seeing a movie.


- Robert
__________________

.
*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)


Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
.



Last edited by Miss Hepburn : 01-10-2019 at 05:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #335  
Old 01-10-2019, 04:59 PM
BigJohn BigJohn is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: अनुगृहितोऽस्म
Posts: 16,048
  BigJohn's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Do not allow the news...confound you and confuse you....
After all, it's the same as seeing a movie.


- Robert
FUNNY BUT SO TRUE!
__________________


 
   ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜ ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜

        Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
   ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜ ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜


Reply With Quote
  #336  
Old 01-10-2019, 05:06 PM
Unseeking Seeker Unseeking Seeker is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Delhi, India
Posts: 10,939
  Unseeking Seeker's Avatar
***

From Song of the Avadhut

“Since I am not the first three states of mind, how could I be the fourth (samadhi)?
Since I am not any of the three kinds of time, how could I be a fourth?
I’m the root of serenity, the primal serenity;
I’m the absolute Reality.
I’m nectarean knowledge, unchanging bliss;
I’m everywhere, like space”


“Why do you weep and moan, my friend? There’s no old age or death for you.
Why do you weep and moan, my friend? There’s no pain of birth for you.
Why do you weep and moan, my friend? You can’t be touched at all.
I’m nectarean knowledge, unchanging bliss; I’m everywhere, like space”

***
__________________
The Self has no attribute
Reply With Quote
  #337  
Old 01-10-2019, 05:22 PM
Miss Hepburn Miss Hepburn is offline
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southwest, USA
Posts: 24,946
  Miss Hepburn's Avatar
Bunny

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJohn
FUNNY BUT SO TRUE!
Oh, maybe we should start a thread on this being a 'movie'....a dream....illusion...
completely not what it appears to be....all
of us actors on a stage...unreal...we are not us...matter is not matter...
there is no you and there is no me!
__________________

.
*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)


Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
.


Reply With Quote
  #338  
Old 01-10-2019, 08:36 PM
BigJohn BigJohn is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: अनुगृहितोऽस्म
Posts: 16,048
  BigJohn's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidsun
Talk about POOF!

Your 'God' created this no you and no me story for "let's see if they can escape this trap" movie-entertainment. Some 'God'!
TYPICAL OPTIMIST
__________________


 
   ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜ ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜

        Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
   ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜ ⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜⁜


Reply With Quote
  #339  
Old 02-10-2019, 02:37 AM
Unseeking Seeker Unseeking Seeker is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Delhi, India
Posts: 10,939
  Unseeking Seeker's Avatar
***

“Stop identifying with your Body And Mind!”

Robert Adams

***
__________________
The Self has no attribute
Reply With Quote
  #340  
Old 02-10-2019, 08:37 AM
Unseeking Seeker Unseeking Seeker is offline
Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Delhi, India
Posts: 10,939
  Unseeking Seeker's Avatar
***

“if you begin the self-inquiry process and you ask, "Who am I? Who am I? Who am I?" Three times and then you wait and ask a few times again and then you wait. And when the thoughts come to you use the number three again and you ask, "To whom do these thoughts come? To whom do these thoughts come? To whom do these thoughts come?" I somehow feel if you try that it will be more effective. The only thing that you're trying to do is to stop your mind from thinking.

You are not trying to become self-realized through self-inquiry. For you are already self-realized. Self-inquiry is to still the mind. When the mind becomes still everything takes care of itself. Remember this. You are not using self-inquiry to awaken. If you do you will never awaken. For you are using a method to become something you already are. Have no attitude when you practice self-inquiry. Have no desire, no need.

In other words do not think I have to get enlightened before I die because I don't want to come back. That is the worst thing you can do. For you are believing deeply, aren't you? That you are the mind and the body. Because you're saying intensely to yourself, "I have to become enlightened." And as you know by now, your personal I can never become enlightened because it doesn't exist. So you're working under an illusion when you say, "I've got to become enlightened before I leave my body."

Rather do the procedure. Follow the principles as outlined. Have no want, no desire, no request, nothing. You have to realize again there is no birth and no death for the Self. There is no one who ever dies, no one who is ever born. When you say, "I have to get enlightened before I die," you have everything backwards. You're believing something has to happen before you leave your body. But the happening has already happened. All you are trying to do is quieten your mind so that you can see it. Can you see that?

You are just trying to quiet your mind. You're not trying to get enlightened. You are not trying to awaken. You are not trying to become liberated. You already are. You think you're something else than that. So you practice self-inquiry which is the fastest way to wake up because you think you have to wake up.

But imagine if you didn't believe you had to wake up. You did not have that belief. Would you have to do anything? Of course not. Does God have to do anything to know he's God? Of course not.”

Robert Adams

***
__________________
The Self has no attribute

Last edited by Unseeking Seeker : 03-10-2019 at 03:09 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) Spiritual Forums