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Old 30-12-2011, 06:43 AM
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What IS Love?

Greetings..

Love, as I understand the word’s fundamental meaning is ‘resonant frequencies of energy’.. resonance frequencies can be resonant between tangible manifestations or intangible feelings at any point on the spectrum, light to dark or positive to negative.. Those conditions that produce harmonic resonance also increase energetic coherence within our physical being and its own individualized complex energetics.. when physical and spiritual energies experience coherence, resonance, and entrainment., a transrational and transpersonal shift occurs, and we describe it favorably, often as ‘Love”.. by that I mean that the word ‘Love’, as I have observed its usage, is invoked when there are conditions that we favor, and that we find worthy of replicating and recommending..

Quoted below is a common understanding of the word “resonance” from Wikipedia, and I’m not inclined to facilitate a physics lesson, but.. I do want to point out an interesting relationship relative to resonance.. when energetic systems vibrate at “resonance frequencies”, the system stores vibrational energy and creating ‘good vibes’.. by storing the vibrational energy created from resonance, the system not only enhances its own energetic health and well-being, but.. stored resonance energy is more easily usable by system in other applications, such as healing, cooperation, and communication.. resonance is generally related to a system’s natural conditions, from which it is understandable that ‘Love’ would also be a natural condition..


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In physics, resonance is the tendency of a system to oscillate at a greater amplitude at some frequencies than at others. These are known as the system's resonant frequencies (or resonance frequencies). At these frequencies, even small periodic driving forces can produce large amplitude oscillations, because the system stores vibrational energy.
Resonance occurs when a system is able to store and easily transfer energy between two or more different storage modes (such as kinetic energy and potential energy in the case of a pendulum). However, there are some losses from cycle to cycle, called damping. When damping is small, the resonant frequency is approximately equal to the natural frequency of the system, which is a frequency of unforced vibrations. Some systems have multiple, distinct, resonant frequencies.
To further add consistency to the exploration of a fundamental meaning of the word ‘Love’, I would like to offer some of my own understandings and the reasoning for the understandings.. I understand that matter, physical matter, is energy that is vibrating at frequencies that produce form, shape and mass.. I add this understanding to help understand the relationship between energetic resonance and ‘Love’.. below is the Wikipedia entry for “mass-energy equivalence”, included as a reference for the terms and phrases I use.. I favor Wikipedia’s entries as a reasonably accurate accounting of a subject’s common meaning, and its actual relationship with the Life in which are participatants..



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In physics, mass–energy equivalence is the concept that the mass of a body is a measure of its energy content. In this concept, mass is a property of all energy, and energy is a property of all mass, and the two properties are connected by a constant. This means (for example) that the total internal energy E of a body at rest is equal to the product of its rest mass m and a suitable conversion factor to transform from units of mass to units of energy. Albert Einstein proposed mass–energy equivalence in 1905 in one of his Annus Mirabilis papers entitled "Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy-content?"[1] The equivalence is described by the famous equation:
E=MC2[squared]
where E is energy, m is mass, and c is the speed of light in a vacuum. The formula is dimensionally consistent and does not depend on any specific system of measurement units. The equation E = mc2 indicates that energy always exhibits relativistic mass in whatever form the energy takes.[2] Mass–energy equivalence does not imply that mass may be "converted" to energy, but it allows for matter to be converted to energy.
From this description of the ‘mass-energy equivalence’, it is reasonable to conclude that the mass and matter that we identify as our body is in fact a symphony of energies vibrating at frequencies that behave in accordance with the influences that shape those energies, and.. the most notable and influential is the self-awareness of our individuality, our individualized Consciousness and its awareness of its relationship with Life.. our individuality is identifiable as a unique signature of energetic frequencies, or as I yield to a more artsy description, our unique ‘Soul Song’.. So we, our energetic signatures, exist in a sea of energy.. an undetectable medium, because we are it.. a useful conceptualization is that this ‘energetic signature’ is a cohesive unit of self-aware energy in a sea of undifferentiated energy.. like ice-cubes in liquid water, different states of the same substance, ‘water’..

This energetic resonance we describe as ‘Love’ is created from the experiences, the genetic inclinations, and the social and cultural programming of the experiencer(s).. Here’s the cool thing, ‘experiences’, direct personal pure experiences, will over-ride inclinations and programming.. experiences are the most random variable in this somewhat ‘sterile’ description (it gets better).. so, experiences, both spontaneous and crafted, are constantly modifying our ‘energetic signatures’, the ‘symphony’ of energies, our ‘Soul Song’, that is our unique perspective, our being-ness in this existence.. this ‘energetic signature’ is Who/What we are as manifested points of reference and perspective.. it exists in a sea of Cosmic Energy, like the ice-cube in water, same stuff/different energetic frequencies..

So, here we are, cohesive units of self-aware energy vibrating at frequencies that produce form, shape, and mass.. As this energetic being that we are experiences its existence, those experiences inspire energetic resonance or energetic dissonance along a scale ranging from the total rejection of dissonance to the total acceptance of resonance, and.. we have cultivated various idiosyncrasies of language to account for the ‘feelings’ we have when we experience resonance or dissonance.. from the descriptions of resonance previously, where there is a stored excess of resonance energy, that stored excess promotes a cascading energetic effect on the being that is experiencing the resonance energies, and it inspires a blissful, joyful, healthy, holistic feeling, which we have crafted words and phrases to describe, like ‘Love’.. ‘Love’, as various levels of energetic resonance, can be as simple as the resonant experience with a pet, or a taste (I ‘Love’ a juicy ripe peach).. ‘Love’ can also be a whole being resonance with another unique being, a ‘soul-mate’ relationship.. or, as so many seek, ‘Love’ can be resonance with the ‘prime’ Universal frequency, the Om/Aum Cosmic vibration.. in each case, the fundamental cause is an alignment of energetic frequencies that result in a coherent and resonant energetic relationship, and the feelings of bliss, and joy, and well-being, and sense of Life lived in a symbiotic relationship with itself..

While there are genetic inclinations, externally programmed influences, and your life’s history of personal experiences.. ‘You’ are free to choose how you apply these influences, you are free to suspend the effects of these influences.. you are free to experience your relationship with this physical existence and with other unique beings however you choose.. Consider those relationships where there is an initial ‘resonance’, where you have an energetic attraction, but there is also some dissonance.. you ‘choose’ to alter your actions/energetic signature to either produce higher resonance/coherence, or to maintain status quo, or to reject the relationship.. but, you ‘choose’. This same choosing applies to every aspect of our existence, even the choice to not choose.. Love is a choice as much as it is a natural happening, a choice to modify our energies to bring ourselves into alignment with the Life we choose to be, with the truth we choose to see.. and, for some, there is a deep and abiding stillness, a silence at the core of Being, it is with this stillness that the bliss and joy, and completeness find resonance with the energies that we ‘are’, it is from this perspective at the center of our individual Being that we radiate out into our Wholeness..

There is so much variety, diversity, depth and unmanifested potential in our perspectives and understandings, that I am eager to look for creative and diverse ways to use language for describing the variations of resonance and the bliss, joy, and excitement of exploring the Great Mystery of Life.. ‘Love’ seems like such a dimensionless broad-brushing of such a powerfully delicate exploration of the Human Experience, and.. given the range from chaotic dissonance to resonant coherence, as a description, ‘Love’ is both inaccurate and inadequate.. when and why is it appropriate to distinguish between the inspirations for resonance, from the deeply intimate interpersonal relationships, to the silent depths of stillness, to the brilliance of a fall sunset.. what we feel is ‘Love’, what we are is the Energy that inspires the ‘feeling’..

And, it has been my experience and my training that, through understanding this unique energetic signature and the pattern of ‘forces’ that manifest it, we are capable of maintaining the unique energetic ‘pattern’ beyond the physical manifestation.. we, as self-aware cohesive units of conscious energy, can adapt our ‘Soul Songs’ to maintain our self-awareness and our conscious unique relationship with Life beyond the limitations of physical manifestations..

There is no turning back, now that you Know..
Life is the Experience, there's nowhere to go..
you're already there, and there's nothing to fear..
each becomes the other, it's all perfectly clear..
we are just whirlpools, in Life's eternal flow..

Be well..
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Old 30-12-2011, 05:42 PM
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love is the ability to raise one's frequency so that it will resonate with all.
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Old 30-12-2011, 05:53 PM
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I'm sure I've never put this sentiment in words before, but I should like to say, TzuJanLi, I resonate with you. :)
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Old 30-12-2011, 05:58 PM
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Hi Tzu, that was a very intricate reflection of an energy based equation, which highlighted accurate knowledge and understanding regarding those energy processes. But my first impression was one of detachment, detachment from the authenticity of what feelings manifest as. Everything in the universe is energy based, but what separates life`s experience in consciousness, from base energy resonances, is what is `felt`. So to compare a resonance frequency which may source feelings, as more energetically relevant than the feelings themselves, is to detach from the very essence those feelings supply.

I cannot avoid recognition that in a topic defining Love, you make no personal reflection of its manifested effects in your own experience. I understand the silence, bliss and stillness that may supply personal contentment, but Love is a shared experience. And though its resonance frequency in flow may harmonize with like resonances, life experiences it in a more manifest way.

Love is more generally recognized as a shared emotion, which is another word missing from your analysis. If surveyed how many in 7 billion human beings would define their experience of love as an emotional connection, and how many as a resonance frequency and would the obvious majority be living in an illusion, because they factor in the nature of their `emotions`. Love is the foundation of relationships and those relationships have evolved humanity more, than any intellectuality, because they demonstrate how we may share `sameness` as human beings.

You referenced the word `soul` what is that in resonance frequency, part of the `mass` of Einstein, or beyond it and his equation? Yet it takes a source placement in the essence of `feeling`. I sense coldness in your determination of what love is, a rationality which misses the plain nature of both its shared experience and its non-local Spiritual source reflection. I mean no offense or meaningless criticism for this is my honest reaction to your reflection.

I know love as an essential expression of connectivity, in this life and beyond its physics and form. I recognize a shared love which some call soul-mate, in a relationship my wife and I share which began long before this human life in which we met. When you associate with affection, to the `wholeness` I interpret mass in universal equation, when I reflect Spiritual `oneness` I reflect a Spirit that is the essence of love, as a shared `oneness`. And in comparison the universal mass, is a time contained blip, in an eternal bliss which has no limitation.

So there is a comparison for discussion’s sake, a kneejerk reaction on my part to your well thought out and presented reflection. I understand resonance frequencies from within my experience, but they are not the emotions which manifest as love, they may be the vehicle that allows the recognition in experience, but they are not the experience itself as it manifests within human nature. In other natures, now that’s another experience, but within the human experience, love is a manifestation of emotional connectivity. May I ask, and you may not answer, are you a Father?
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Old 30-12-2011, 06:04 PM
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Tzu,
resonance invokes good feelings, but other acts of love like dying for someone do not produce those kind of feelings. Love also produces feelings of grief. How does this fit to the synergy?
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Old 30-12-2011, 06:22 PM
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Okay okay here is another fwo cents . . .

Love is the fundamendal frequency that resonates (harmonically) with all things from THUS the saying "love is all there is" originates.
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Old 30-12-2011, 06:24 PM
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resonance invokes good feelings, but other acts of love like dying for someone do not produce those kind of feelings.

How do you know this? How do you know what kind of feelings occur when one dies for someone?
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Old 30-12-2011, 06:29 PM
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How do you know this? How do you know what kind of feelings occur when one dies for someone?
Coz i would die for someone i love for sure but would rather not because im afraid to die
so to me love would not generate a blissful felings of resonace but fear
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Old 30-12-2011, 06:44 PM
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Coz i would die for someone i love for sure but would rather not because im afraid to die
so to me love would not generate a blissful felings of resonace but fear

Ok. But you really don't know. You might die for someone and feelings may come that Are blissful, loving.

My point is that as you are alive, and can only imagine the scenero- and only imagine that for you- not wanting to die- that there would be negative feelings- but don't know if this would really be true.

Often you are so accurate. This just stood out to me as inaccurate.

So I called ya on it.
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Old 30-12-2011, 06:57 PM
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Ok. But you really don't know. You might die for someone and feelings may come that Are blissful, loving.
Or not. Which render the theory of resonace in same boat as i am.

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my point is that as you are alive, and can only imagine the scenero- and only imagine that for you- not wanting to die- that there would be negative feelings- but don't know if this would really be true.

To verify my position one must die first?this is nonsense.
When your dead, there is no morefeeling and there is no one to testify that it is so
so the next best thing is what feeling is produced in the process while one is concious.
This i can testify many times thatit is fear and adrenelin

my point isthat love cannot be all but resonance. Although resonance is a good word to start with its definition. Because resonace is also whatbinds and connects and share two objects. Wordsthat we often hear to be associated with love

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ften you are so accurate. This just stood out to me as inaccurate.

So I called ya ue:
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