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Old 18-03-2019, 07:46 AM
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Yes, Buddha was a prince and wealthy. But his spiritual quest and questions started after he witnessed the human sufferings.
So, he was like a modern day peace corp volunteer or missionary worker or mother Theresa.
Reality of Buddha's life journey is sketch at best. We don't really know how his life actually been like.
His enlightenment started after he left all his material possessions and social standings, including his family. - as this is the passage of even today's Buddhist monks.

Let's face it. Most humans are not Buddha, ok?
There is a reason why Buddha is still remembered and followed after 2500 yrs.
So, we can not use Buddha as an example of rich for this argument.

Key being he got there but not without the context of understanding wealth. He did not have to chase wealth and basic survival needs because these were a given..

If you are in wealth you are more likely in a position to question and having the time for these pursuits. Most poor people have to struggle with the basic necessities on a daily basis. As modern people we’ve just upgraded the concept of “being poor”, now lower midd class people throughout much of the developed world call themselves poor. It just shows how far humanity has come..

Buddha also isn’t unique in having been a teacher from a wealthy background..
It’s rather common, with many priests having come from rich families, guru’s from brahmin families, etc.
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Old 18-03-2019, 08:52 AM
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Francis of assisi apparently renounced his wealthy status and even gave away the shirt off his back .. then went in solitude for years fasting and such likes before coming back out into the world with his purpose in toe ..

Perhaps the more you have at times the more you try and hold onto it .

When you have nothing to hold onto or nothing to lose one is perhaps receptive to the inner self or to God or whatever word suits ..

I suppose this also reflects the difference between a mind that is busy and cramped with mind stuff and a mind that is relatively empty ..

When the mind is empty and uncluttered there is obviously more peace at hand and where there is peace what you are is known..



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Old 18-03-2019, 06:36 PM
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The drive towards spiritual learning comes from our development in previous lives, not from our bank balance.

Poverty does not automatically make someone seek spiritual truth.

Having money allows us to enjoy material comforts and be grateful for them, without necessarily being trapped by them.

Having money allows more freedom of choice, including the freedom to help others and the freedom to choose how to spend our time.

Material wealth and spiritual enlightenment are not mutually exclusive.

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Old 19-03-2019, 12:57 AM
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Key being he got there but not without the context of understanding wealth. He did not have to chase wealth and basic survival needs because these were a given..

If you are in wealth you are more likely in a position to question and having the time for these pursuits. Most poor people have to struggle with the basic necessities on a daily basis. As modern people we’ve just upgraded the concept of “being poor”, now lower midd class people throughout much of the developed world call themselves poor. It just shows how far humanity has come..

Buddha also isn’t unique in having been a teacher from a wealthy background..
It’s rather common, with many priests having come from rich families, guru’s from brahmin families, etc.

and exactly what good has all this activity done for the world?
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Old 19-03-2019, 07:40 AM
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and exactly what good has all this activity done for the world?
I don’t what you are talking about!
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Old 19-03-2019, 07:44 AM
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I would think being financially wealthy would make it harder. Money can buy physical things but that's it. I wouldn't consider myself a hard core Christan person but in the Bible gives a good example of this. Jesus Christ himself was extremely poor. He was born with the world against him, and look what he became. Money can make things easier but the easier something is to achieve, often times it's just that easy to forget or not to know the real meaning behind it
There's a really good but weird movie to watch that uses this same idea. It's called Charley and the chocolate factory. The movie is definitely different but really good.
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