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Old 13-10-2018, 04:37 PM
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The 'bombardment' comes from my unconscious mind into my conscious mind. I know I can change this. It is however a slow and delicate process.



But you are causing this yourself, the unconscious does what the conscious demands.
Positive thoughts, and uplifting ideas can help the unconscious change it's negative pattern into positive which obviously has a big impact on your life...
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Old 13-10-2018, 06:28 PM
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But you are causing this yourself, the unconscious does what the conscious demands.
Positive thoughts, and uplifting ideas can help the unconscious change it's negative pattern into positive which obviously has a big impact on your life...

personally I don't believe that is a smart choice in the long term, but that is just me..
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Old 14-10-2018, 01:33 AM
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I do wonder if it is possible to be 100% conscious (as in enlightenment) if there is an unconscious mind which accounts for about 90% of the self.
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Old 14-10-2018, 02:48 AM
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I do wonder if it is possible to be 100% conscious (as in enlightenment) if there is an unconscious mind which accounts for about 90% of the self.

most people don't want it, because you don't only get to look at good and sweet things. You also have to consider the bad, and the ugly.

'walk in darkness'.
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Old 14-10-2018, 05:44 AM
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[quote=Honza]I do wonder if it is possible to be 100% conscious (as in enlightenment) if there is an unconscious mind which accounts for about 90% of the self.[/QUOTE



How would you explain what Enlightenment means?
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Old 14-10-2018, 05:50 AM
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most people don't want it, because you don't only get to look at good and sweet things. You also have to consider the bad, and the ugly.

'walk in darkness'.



Buddha was Enlightened/Awakened and he certainly considered the good/bad/ugly, although he wouldn't have used those labels.
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Old 14-10-2018, 05:58 AM
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I do wonder if it is possible to be 100% conscious (as in enlightenment) if there is an unconscious mind which accounts for about 90% of the self.[/QUOTE



How would you explain what Enlightenment means?

It always amazes me just how many people claim to be enlightened when in the Eastern philosophies attaining this status is said to take millions of years.
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Old 14-10-2018, 07:43 AM
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It always amazes me just how many people claim to be enlightened when in the Eastern philosophies attaining this status is said to take millions of years.


Not in Buddhism Busby, different Schools, different interpretations, but It's always "this lifetime" anyway because there are past lives, ( Rebirth) and they stretch into the past beyond all counting, so you're always living the present life.
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Old 14-10-2018, 07:45 AM
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Old 14-10-2018, 08:48 AM
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It always amazes me just how many people claim to be enlightened when in the Eastern philosophies attaining this status is said to take millions of years.
In 7-8 years of being here at SF, I have never read a post from anyone claiming they were 100% enlightened. Claiming they are on the enlightenment path, yes. And I have never heard a spiritual teacher speak who claimed they were enlightened.

Please list the many people you have come across, I'd like to read those claims for myself. And I'm not talking about the goofy dime-a-dozen eastern and new-age "enlightened master" sites online. I mean people you yourself have met here or elsewhere.

I have read posts from people who start "Ask Me A Question" threads, claiming they can provide answers to any spiritual question. Now, those make me shake my head in laughing amazement, just like you, sure.
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