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Old 09-02-2019, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by r6r6r
Balance between charges{ + and - } is zero{ 0 } not infinite is same conclusion as your above.

A net energy balance of 0.

The most generalized{ most cosmic } --ergo most inclusive naught is left out of consideration--- eternally existent, Cosmic Trinity Set :

1} spirit-1, metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts.

--------------conceptual line-of-demarcation-----

2} metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space,

3} finite, occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erse or God, aka spirit-2, 3 and 4.

You associating of non-occupied space with positive or negative is in error.

Non-occupied space is neither a positive, or a negative geometry, nor is it a charge{ + or - } ergo non-occupied space has not any characteristics that can be associated with occupied space.

The sum of any two negative numbers is always a postive number so your above is in error.

I didn't say anything about the sum of negative numbers.

The balance between positive{ + } and negative{ - } is zero

That's what I said.

The abacus is derived from the above or vice versa.

I don't know how an abacus works.

zero{ 0 } is a numerical place holder for any numerical value{ count }
in the first column of an abacus, once that column is full and there is need to start a 2nd counting column.

OK, then it is a set based device.

In this way zero{ 0 } is counting number{ value }.

It's a place holder on a number line of nil value, and it symbolises the base of counting systems.

Zero is niether postive or negative. diametrica opposite of +1 is -1.

The diametric{?} opposite of zero{ 0 } is infinite.

Your "between the infinite and the infinitesimal" is not a rational, logical common sense statment i.e. meaningless.

It to with convergence in math where lim(n->) or lim(n->0)

Again, use occupied space Uni-V-erse macro-infinite non-occupied space as an example;

1} Universe{ occupied space } has at minimum three values of consideration ergo associated with numerical numbers of number line;

..1a} -1 as fermions, or -1 as negative shaped )( Dark Energy

..2a} 0
..3a} +1 as bosons, or +1 as positive shaped ( ) Gravity

2} .....infinite space...... has no numerical values to be associated with it.

It is true that numerical zero{ 0 } is closet numerical value we can associate with a macro-infinite non-occupied space as in saying it is not an occupied space thing ergo we can assign a zero{ 0 } to represent nothing{ 0 }.

Then occupied space Universe can be assigned numerical 1{ ergo +1 }.

On the other hand we can use the same two above as postional opposites if not also a diametric opposite as follows and actually closet to what exists geometrically;

infinite<-------radii from (center of finite Universe) radii------->infinite

beyond number{ count }<-----radial number line( 0 )radial number line----->beyond number{ count }

Infinite this or infinite that, is the diametric{?} opposite of zero{ 0 } when zero is used as a place holder for any specific value/count.

The sum of all real numbers is 0. The number of all real numbers (or the set of all real numbers) is infinite.

Perfect representation for macro-infinite non-occupied space.

Ergo Universe aka Uni-V-erse

The closet we may come to "stillness", barring non-occupied space, is the constant speed of EMRadiation being constant to all observers irrespective of their speed moving toward or away from radiation{ photon }.

This is what Einstien thought with his thought experiement, riding on beam of EMRadiaton, he would not experience time.

This may also be closely related to geodesically curved, metaphysical-3, gravitational Space ( ) and geodesically curved, metaphysical-4, dark energy )(.

Of course an observer traveling at c experiences no space/time (distance), but you've obviously taken me out of context.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:06 AM
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Color beyond finite<------(0)------->beyond finite

Originally Posted by Gem
The sum of all real numbers is 0. The number of all real numbers (or the set of all real numbers) is infinite.

None of that above makes any rational, logical sense to me.

The word "all" in your sentence inherently means a finite set of numbers i.e. all = finite set

The sum of a finite set is finite, not infinite.

Sorry Gem, without more precise {step-by-step }explanation I have no idea how you reach your conclusions.

beyond finite{ macro-infinite }<-----radii ( 0 )radii------> { macro-infinite }beyond finite
"U"niverse > Uni-v-erse > universe's > I-verse < you-verse < we-verse < them-verse
Gravitational Space ( + ) >< )-( Dark Energy
Time >66.4< --frequency ^v^v--
Mind/Intellect 12 ergo 3-fold 4-fold and 5-fold{ 3 + 4 + 5 = 12 }
Biological *8* --bilateral four's---
Spin <left 6 right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll{ 3 * 2 = 6 }
IS >2<--positive and negative tetrahedron{ self dual }
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